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Mar 31 09 6:02 AM
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I picked up on it a few months ago and it's fascinating. He ASKS questions all the time -- and in this weird syntax that always starts with something like "care to explain" instead of a straight "why", somehow injecting this subliminal implication that he thinks we're wrong and we should justify our deviant points of view. He does it a lot when people say that an X-Men book wasn't good. But he's never ANSWERED a question that people have asked HIM. Never once. Instead he'll respond with another question, like "well why don't YOU tell ME blah blah blah", or he ignores it completely. It's insanely interesting to watch him interact with people around here.
Are you doing the Reader's Digest versions of your posts now? Thank You!!!I prefer it to the normal 20 pages of repetitious posts.
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Mar 31 09 6:13 AM
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Instead he'll respond with another question
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Mar 31 09 6:16 AM
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Mar 31 09 6:24 AM
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How's that for a question?
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Mar 31 09 12:40 PM
Medieval Guy wrote: Cassaday drew all of it. I'd say the Morrison run was more brilliant, and the Whedon run was more consistently excellent. Morrison was more experimental, and Whedon more old-school (but with a modern sheen). Most of all, Whedon (and really, Whedon alone) respected the Morrison run.
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Mar 31 09 1:18 PM
riftt wrote: Morrison's run was visionary, Whedon was just regurgitated 80s pretention.
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Mar 31 09 1:50 PM
It's good. It's enjoyable. I wouldn't say it's the "best X-Men since Claremont/Byrne" (the phrase is quickly losing its value anyway with everybody applying to their favorite recent runs), but it is definitely worth having and reading. It is somewhat different from the other X-books, but then what did you expect from Whedon? It's different and that's a good thing.
The bad points. One, the original issues never came out on schedule. The delays were absurd. Of course this isn't a problem when you get them in an Omnibus...but the Omnibus might get delayed too, several times. You never know, with Whedon on it.
The more serious concern. And this is the main reason why I would not nominate this for the best X-stuff since Claremont/Byrne. This is one of the X-books that underlines the "racial awareness" aspect of being a mutant. Instead of just using it as a story element, whole story arcs rotate around it. The thing had already been beaten to death by previous writers, it is becoming a major case of dead horse flogging (maybe it was just Casey's Church of Humanity nonsense that killed the horse in question). Yes, by now I already know that it doesn't matter whether you are human or a mutant, both have got equal rights, etc. In fact, I was all too familiar with that concept in the 1980s TUXM stories.
X-books need a crisis that wipes out the CoH, Reverend Stryker's followers, and all other anti-mutant/pro-mutant bigots and hate groups, so the writers must move on and try some new story ideas. In the 2000s, it's been getting worse and more repetitive than Kryptonite stories in SA Superman books.
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Mar 31 09 2:11 PM
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Mar 31 09 2:13 PM
Fyrcyning wrote: This is one of the X-books that underlines the "racial awareness" aspect of being a mutant. Instead of just using it as a story element, whole story arcs rotate around it. The thing had already been beaten to death by previous writers, it is becoming a major case of dead horse flogging (maybe it was just Casey's Church of Humanity nonsense that killed the horse in question).
This is one of the X-books that underlines the "racial awareness" aspect of being a mutant. Instead of just using it as a story element, whole story arcs rotate around it. The thing had already been beaten to death by previous writers, it is becoming a major case of dead horse flogging (maybe it was just Casey's Church of Humanity nonsense that killed the horse in question).
Mar 31 09 2:21 PM
leveret1 wrote: Fyrcyning wrote: This is one of the X-books that underlines the "racial awareness" aspect of being a mutant. Instead of just using it as a story element, whole story arcs rotate around it. The thing had already been beaten to death by previous writers, it is becoming a major case of dead horse flogging (maybe it was just Casey's Church of Humanity nonsense that killed the horse in question). Thing is, that's the central premise behind the X-books: the fear of mutants as "other" and their roles as outsiders. If you do away with it, what do the X-Men become? Just your regular, standard-mill superhero team.
A lot of people here refer to the CC/Byrne run as the pinnacle of X-stories. How many stories in that run are mutants/humans stories? Exactly one: Days of Future Past. It's a great stroy, of course, but the whole run illustrates that there are lots of other possibilities to explore. I wouldn't call the Dark Phoenix Saga a "standard run-of-the-mill" superhero story.
Mar 31 09 4:32 PM
Fyrcyning wrote: leveret1 wrote: Fyrcyning wrote: This is one of the X-books that underlines the "racial awareness" aspect of being a mutant. Instead of just using it as a story element, whole story arcs rotate around it. The thing had already been beaten to death by previous writers, it is becoming a major case of dead horse flogging (maybe it was just Casey's Church of Humanity nonsense that killed the horse in question). Thing is, that's the central premise behind the X-books: the fear of mutants as "other" and their roles as outsiders. If you do away with it, what do the X-Men become? Just your regular, standard-mill superhero team. A lot of people here refer to the CC/Byrne run as the pinnacle of X-stories. How many stories in that run are mutants/humans stories? Exactly one: Days of Future Past. It's a great stroy, of course, but the whole run illustrates that there are lots of other possibilities to explore. I wouldn't call the Dark Phoenix Saga a "standard run-of-the-mill" superhero story.
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Mar 31 09 5:35 PM
Punisher89 wrote: Well, that's 3 Omniboos now that deal with the X-Men (make it 4 if u count Wolverine) all have different interpretations, and after reading the responses, it seems everyone is somewhere in between, but I'll look into this and see if its worth it.
Mar 31 09 6:03 PM
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