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Apr 9 08 4:45 PM
apachedug wrote: I'm guessing it will be Brooke White going home this week...
NOOOOOO!!!
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Apr 10 08 8:58 AM
apachedug wrote: Um, I'm proud to say I got to see Dolly Parton without her "gear" (makeup, wigs, etc.); she had short brown hair, was super short like my mom, and the second nicest "country star" I'd ever met. (The nicest was Loretta Lynn.)
Dolly has said it doesn't bother her when people call her a dumb blonde; because she know she's not dumb and she's not a blonde! Wow, second nicest. Loretta Lynn must unbelievably nice then. Dolly makes regular appearances around here for various charities, and she is just a top notch person. Granted, I've never had any one on one contact like you have.
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Apr 11 08 8:41 AM
LK1966 wrote: The performances out of this octet have become so listless I no longer care who goes each week. This year, the winner will be by default. And, please, someone introduce Jordan Sparks to a nautilus. Her upper arms look like bags full of dead mice.
Mmmmmm . . . dead mice!
Apr 11 08 8:43 AM
NewWorldKam wrote: I know it has to be disappointing to get eliminated at this point, but Michael shouldn't really sweat it. He has enough charisma and enough of a voice that he'll get his shot to make an album and try to make it into the charts. It's always tougher for white guys over 35 to make a dent in today's popular music charts unless you're U2, but if he plays it smart and sticks to what he's good at, he might be able to get some attention.
He's already cut a couple of EP's, fronting for two different bands. I think it's time he start thinking about another line of work. Ditto for Carly.
Apr 11 08 9:43 AM
Apr 11 08 11:55 AM
apachedug wrote: GEEZ LARRY!! I was really sorry to see whats-his-name go last night (though eventually, they all will). Droid you may be right about Carly but this guy has charisma. I liked him over David A (but then again, I'm not a 14 year old white girl that spends all night texting...)
I guess everyone views charisma differently, but frankly I don't see any in Michael Johns. He's a 30 year old man who's competing against a teen-ager when he's already been a flop as a singer for the last 10 years. Seriously, it's time to grow up and get a real job.
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Apr 11 08 9:38 PM
NewWorldKam wrote: Droid-- Daughtry also made a couple of albums with bands that didn't sell diddly squat. Anyone remember the bands "Cadence" and "Absent Element"? I thought not. Then he goes on Idol, gets to make a record for a BIG record company with REAL producers and technicians and LOTS of marketing and radio/video play and the rest is history. You can't write people off because they tried a couple of times in a very small way and failed. After doing pretty well on a world stage like American Idol, he's going to get the opportunity to work with some of the most talented people in the business. THIS is his shot to make it, not those other small time attempts. If he records an album after the Idol tour and it tanks, then you can argue that he should find a day job, but not until then. We get it. Michael Johns doesn't float your boat. You're not alone, but there are also lots of people who loved him. Let's move on.
Apr 12 08 4:46 PM
Apr 12 08 7:08 PM
NewWorldKam wrote: I see your point, droid, but that doesn't change the situation. The fact remains that Michael Johns is going to make an album with 19 Entertainment and it's going to be infinitely more polished than anything else he has ever attempted with much more inferior resources. Whether or not his album is going to appeal to the music buying public enough to make a splash on the charts remains to be seen, but you just can't write him off as a has been when he has yet to attempt a major label debut! The same is true with every other contestant that is still on the show. They will all get to make albums for a very major label and then Clive Davis and his people will see what sticks and continue on with those artists that make money. None of them can be written off yet because they are not the same people they were before receiving world-wide exposure. How can you argue with that??? It's just common sense!
Carly was given a huge amount of promotion by a major lable and flopped miserably. How is she any different now? She's 10 years older and 30 pounds heavier. Kristy Lee was also given a fair amount of promotion but at least her career was a bit more recent. Sorry, but I don't see a 30 year old man with a failed career as having much of a future as a rock star.
Apr 12 08 8:12 PM
Apr 13 08 6:10 AM
NewWorldKam wrote: The right person at the right time with the right song and the right promotion behind it can produce a huge hit. I've seen it happen a hundred times with people who have much worse voices and much worse looks than Johns. Chances are that won't happen to him because the odds are always long in that business...but his chances have increased due to his exposure on the show and fans he has made from said exposure. That's all I'm saying. I know he has been trying for a long time and hasn't found any success. However, I also know a lot of people where I work who are willing to buy his album right now if he released it today. I'm sure my experience with a lot of very average Americans is not a complete aberration.
Well, if you've seen it happen a hundred times, name five that I would recognize. Shouldn't be difficult. Obviously, his exposure on Amrican Idol will increase his chances of success, the question is, by how much? Before American Idol, his chances were absolute zero. Now they are slightly above absolute zero. The reality is, he's nothing special. You can hear vocalists that are just as good as him or even better in just about any good sized bar in any town on a Friday night. Will he sell a few records as a result of his stint on AI? Probably. Most of the people who make the top ten get their 15 minutes of fame. But how many have really developed significant careers? Six? Eight?
Apr 13 08 9:15 AM
droid714 wrote: Obviously, his exposure on Amrican Idol will increase his chances of success, the question is, by how much? Before American Idol, his chances were absolute zero. Now they are slightly above absolute zero. The reality is, he's nothing special. You can hear vocalists that are just as good as him or even better in just about any good sized bar in any town on a Friday night. Will he sell a few records as a result of his stint on AI? Probably. Most of the people who make the top ten get their 15 minutes of fame. But how many have really developed significant careers? Six? Eight? I have to agree with you here, Droid. A lot of really talented folks have passed through the Idol top 12 in the past six seasons prior to this one. Some have released albums and done very well - enough to be considered having significant careers (Carrie Underwood, Clay Aiken, Kelly Clarkson, Daughtry). Others have done okay out of gate with a good single or two (Elliot Yamin, Ruben Studdard, Jordan Sparks, Kimberly Locke). A few went back to their roots and have had success but not a lot of exposure (country with Josh Gracin, Kelly Pickler, and Bucky Covington, southern-rock with Bo Bice, etc.). Some have used it for acting launches (Katherine McPhee, Jennifer Hudson in "Dream Girls", Fantasia on Broadway). The success is measured in various ways. Will Michael Johns be able to turn his weeks on Idol into enough to get records sold? Maybe. Hard to say for sure. One thing I've found about Idol is that the key to musical success for them post-show is a) having a vision and direction of who they are as an artist, b) being able to stand firm on what works for them to capitalize into a release that the fans will embrace, and c) having the studio behind them for the right push. Many Idol finalists - some in the top two - have suffered greatly on the charts because of failure of the elements aligning. In the end, first and foremost, Idol is about being the top rated show with big bucks coming in each week thanks to ratings, etc. Second, is turning the talent found into something Clive Davis and his companies can make money off of.
Obviously, his exposure on Amrican Idol will increase his chances of success, the question is, by how much? Before American Idol, his chances were absolute zero. Now they are slightly above absolute zero. The reality is, he's nothing special. You can hear vocalists that are just as good as him or even better in just about any good sized bar in any town on a Friday night. Will he sell a few records as a result of his stint on AI? Probably. Most of the people who make the top ten get their 15 minutes of fame. But how many have really developed significant careers? Six? Eight?
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