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Nov 23 15 11:32 AM
czeskleba wrote:Despite the overall high quality of this series, three of the four volumes are going to have some material that is sketchy. Volume 1 will have the fill-in issues prompted by Gulacy and Adkins' deadline troubles. Volume 2 will feature the fill-ins and inconsistent art during the immediate post-Gulacy era. And Volume 4 will have the lousy final issues of the series. Only Volume 3 will be great from cover-to-cover. But the weak issues were of course just a small part of the overall series.
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Nov 23 15 11:40 AM
spectacular shocker wrote:Though I haven't read any of the MOKF issues in years, I'm thinking that even the worst issue(s) of this title were probably better than many other series at their height...just my opinion, however...
Though I haven't read any of the MOKF issues in years, I'm thinking that even the worst issue(s) of this title were probably better than many other series at their height...just my opinion, however...
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Nov 23 15 11:57 AM
deejayway wrote:A vast overstatement in my opinion. Sadly, when MoKF was bad, it was very, very bad.Moench's first efforts were very lame, as he madly tried to find his own voice. Furthermore, he was working with a very young, inexperienced and over-worked Paul Gulacy, as well as Ron Wilson, who made Shang Chi look like the Hulk with a Beatle wig.The mag muddled on until issue 29. Moench's writing gradually improved as he slowly edged towards reinventing the mag, and there was some nice artwork in there, but also a lot of bad stuff. AFAIC, all of the fill-ins during the Moench/Gulacy run are mediocre and nondescript with poor to barely serviceable artwork.Once Gulacy leaves, Moench writers a decent enough story arc, featuring a delusional pyschopath called War-Yore, but the Jimmy Craig artwork is ugly and clumsy and the John Tartag inks do him no favours.After that, however, story and artwork deteriorate. Mike Zeck debuts, but he is still very young and clunky and he is coupled with crude inkers.However, it's almost all clear sailing from issue 71-120, almost 50 issues of sustained excellence. An impressive run by any standards.
OK, I stand corrected. Obviously you've got much stronger memories of these issues. As I said, I haven't read any of them in 30+ years. I'll reserve full judgement until I actually see these reprints, of course.
I will also say that any artist that is compared to Gulacy, Day, and Zeck on this series would obviously look inferior; their art was typically so amazing that the issues not drawn by them paled in comparison...
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Nov 23 15 11:06 PM
deejayway wrote:A vast overstatement in my opinion. Sadly, when MoKF was bad, it was very, very bad.Moench's first efforts were very lame, as he madly tried to find his own voice. Furthermore, he was working with a very young, inexperienced and over-worked Paul Gulacy, as well as Ron Wilson, who made Shang Chi look like the Hulk with a Beatle wig.
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gardibolt wrote:Why are these Omnibus instead of Masterworks? I assume they won't be Masterworked later.
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VisualFiction wrote:I'm hoping it doesn't sell out via preorders before we ever find out who's illustrating the Regular Edition cover.
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