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Irony and subtly are the first casualties in the eternal battle of wits between people divided by a common language. So read between the lines or you'll fall through the cracks...
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Muldoon wrote:Love, love, LOVE the Ross Andru period of Spider-Man. Count me as NOT being part of ''everyone''
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Five Years Later wrote:People always speak highly of John Severin. If anything I think he's forgotten. He didn't do much penciling for the MU super-heroes did he? I love the Trimpe/Severin Hulk stories.
Apr 26 14 10:58 AM
Danovi wrote:Five Years Later wrote:People always speak highly of John Severin. If anything I think he's forgotten. He didn't do much penciling for the MU super-heroes did he? I love the Trimpe/Severin Hulk stories.No, John didn't do much of the super-hero titles for Marvel, but he did do so much more in his time with them that I always felt he has been some what forgotten and underrated by fans as the years go on. And I agree , his work on Hulk with Herb Trimpe is beautiful to behold!
Apr 26 14 11:05 AM
Reaky wrote: Sal Buscema is another whose work just looks Marvel, but is so formulaic. I suspect you could take something like a couple of dozen of Sal's panels, shuffle them and redraw the heads, and you could reconstruct virtually any of his issues: the extended hand, the striding walk, the sweeping blow, the flying body..
Precisely; no thought, no inspiration, great work ethic though.
To me Sals storytelling acumen is so basic, it's on the level of a children's book; everything is spellt out for the reader. It's fine if you don't want to engage your imagination, but I just found it blatantly predictable.Same applies for George Tuska. I actually rate Tuska higher than Sal when he put any effort into his work, something he rarely ever did from the 60s onwards. Trimpe is the same, colourless, formulaic workhorse, and worst of all he lacked a basic understanding of antomy, a cardinal sin.
Count me as an Andru hater, I rate him much lower than Sal and only slightly above Bob Brown.Sal never added much to a story AFAIC, but he couldn't ruin a good tale, the way Andru and Brown could. I found there work so ugly, that regardless of the stories, I just found them unreadable.
I'm not blind to Andru and Brown's previous work at DC in the 60s, which was perfectly serviceable albeit unremarkable, but they were both way over the hill by the time they migrated to Marvel in the early 70s.
Apr 26 14 11:36 AM
Five Years Later wrote:Danovi wrote:Five Years Later wrote:People always speak highly of John Severin. If anything I think he's forgotten. He didn't do much penciling for the MU super-heroes did he? I love the Trimpe/Severin Hulk stories. No, John didn't do much of the super-hero titles for Marvel, but he did do so much more in his time with them that I always felt he has been some what forgotten and underrated by fans as the years go on. And I agree , his work on Hulk with Herb Trimpe is beautiful to behold! Which reminds me. I'd love to see a Semper Fi' collection! More John Severin the better!
Danovi wrote:Five Years Later wrote:People always speak highly of John Severin. If anything I think he's forgotten. He didn't do much penciling for the MU super-heroes did he? I love the Trimpe/Severin Hulk stories. No, John didn't do much of the super-hero titles for Marvel, but he did do so much more in his time with them that I always felt he has been some what forgotten and underrated by fans as the years go on. And I agree , his work on Hulk with Herb Trimpe is beautiful to behold!
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deejayway wrote:I forgot all about Semper Fi. How many issues did Severin do? Gotta pick them up. Severin was a prodigious talent, but sadly always overshadowed by even better artists like Wally Wood at EC or artists with more flamboyant styles like Jack Kirby at Marvel. If you look at the Witchfinder mini-series he recently did at Dark Horse, he still had the right chops as an octogenarian.
Apr 26 14 12:12 PM
I don't really think Severin would've meshed well with John Buscema, who needed a softer, lusher brush, which was so splendidly provided by inkers like George Klein and Tom Palmer.
You're perfectly right in saying Severin's inking was 'gritty', which basically precluded it from slick science fiction or superheroics, but it also made him so great at more realistic genres like War, Westerns, Horror and even Sword & Sorcery. I loved his work on Kull and I wish he and Marie had done a hundred issues together.His b&w work at Warren was also first rate and I have been urging for an artist-centric Warren volume from Dark Horse devoted to him for ages.Sadly, I doubt it will happen.
Severin and Wood were so great on 'Creeps' in Creepy #78.
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deejayway wrote:I don't really think Severin would've meshed well with John Buscema, who needed a softer, lusher brush, which was so splendidly provided by inkers like George Klein and Tom Palmer.You're perfectly right in saying Severin's inking was 'gritty', which basically precluded it from slick science fiction or superheroics, but it also made him so great at more realistic genres like War, Westerns, Horror and even Sword & Sorcery. I loved his work on Kull and I wish he and Marie had done a hundred issues together. His b&w work at Warren was also first rate and I have been urging for an artist-centric Warren volume from Dark Horse devoted to him for ages. Sadly, I doubt it will happen.Severin and Wood were so great on 'Creeps' in Creepy #78.
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angarthewhisperer wrote:Danovi wrote:Five Years Later wrote:People always speak highly of John Severin. If anything I think he's forgotten. He didn't do much penciling for the MU super-heroes did he? I love the Trimpe/Severin Hulk stories.No, John didn't do much of the super-hero titles for Marvel, but he did do so much more in his time with them that I always felt he has been some what forgotten and underrated by fans as the years go on. And I agree , his work on Hulk with Herb Trimpe is beautiful to behold! Speaking of which...where is that Volume 8 at!
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