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Dec 11 13 6:58 AM
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Dec 11 13 8:40 AM
andrewc wrote:johnnypt wrote:Mike Falcon wrote:So what will vol. 6 look like? Most likely CM #58-62, Marvel Spotlight v2 #1-4 & #8, Death of Captain Marvel GN and maybe an extra or two. For extras, the only material from this period that won't end up printed elsewhere is the Drax/Thanos backup story from Logan's Run #5. Although it was published around the same time as Captain Marvel #50, it fits better with the contents of Volume #6. Another long shot is from Cosmic Powers Unlimited #1, a Captain Marvel/Thanos story that followed up on the Death of Captain Marvel GN.
johnnypt wrote:Mike Falcon wrote:So what will vol. 6 look like? Most likely CM #58-62, Marvel Spotlight v2 #1-4 & #8, Death of Captain Marvel GN and maybe an extra or two.
Mike Falcon wrote:So what will vol. 6 look like? Most likely CM #58-62, Marvel Spotlight v2 #1-4 & #8, Death of Captain Marvel GN and maybe an extra or two.
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Dec 11 13 11:47 AM
nakamachi wrote:The Logan's run app is only a few pages, and although it would be nice to see it in volume #6, it's not a big deal. Cosmic Powers Unlimited if from way too far ahead in historic chronology and besides that, I think it's junk so I'd leave it out. I've been thinking about a Ms. Marvel mapping If they ever do a Ms. Marvel MMW. I would probably choose to leave out MSH vol 2 #10 - 11 from 1992 (although originally scripted for MM #24 - 25) because they were also junk. Instead I'd probably choose something closer to the time period like Avengers #200 or Avengers annual #10.
Dec 11 13 11:49 AM
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Dec 11 13 11:54 AM
Lark Knight wrote: Leocomix wrote: There were other Annuals which included either Spider-Man or the Thing as guest stars in case the main series was cancelled. I remember a Nova/Spider-Man team-up.The Nova/Spider-Man team-up wasn't in an Annual, though. It was in a planned crossover between AMAZING SPIDER-MAN and NOVA.There was a Nova/Thing team-up that appeared in MARVEL TWO-IN-ONE ANNUAL #3. I suppose it's possible that story may have been intended for a NOVA ANNUAL, especially since the creative team was Marv Wolfman and Sal Buscema.
Leocomix wrote: There were other Annuals which included either Spider-Man or the Thing as guest stars in case the main series was cancelled. I remember a Nova/Spider-Man team-up.
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Dec 11 13 12:21 PM
nakamachi wrote:The Logan's run app is only a few pages, and although it would be nice to see it in volume #6, it's not a big deal.
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Dec 11 13 11:26 PM
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Cosmic Powers Unlimited if from way too far ahead in historic chronology
Dec 12 13 12:37 AM
dc newton wrote:Cosmic Powers Unlimited if from way too far ahead in historic chronology I'm not sure why people want to leave out a story that's important because it's too far away timeline wise for that volume?
Dec 12 13 12:59 AM
Partly because it's from the 90's and was junk, I wouldn't call it important at all.
Dec 12 13 7:02 AM
nakamachi wrote:I'm not a believer in the whole concept of "double dipping" or "triple dipping", to me it's just providing different format choices. If I went to a bookstore and found a nice high quality illustrated edition of "Ivanhoe" I wouldn't complain that they were double dipping because a new paperback edition just came out the year before. To me real double dipping would be if the did and expensive HC Captain Marvel, and then a year later did the exact same version but with a new cover and adding in the few Logan's Run pages. I think the prime MMW goal is to have as complete a volume as is possible. If that means reprinting MTIO Annual 2 and Avengers Annual 7 for the fourth time then so be it as long as the book is complete for the few fans out there who may not be picking up Warlock, Avengers or MTIO MMWs. I only really have a problem with it when the amount of reprinted material is more than about a third of the book or more. In Captain Marvel's case, volumes #5 and #6 were likely to be thin volumes anyway and there really wasn't much relevant material that could be added to make them more substantial other than add the two annuals. Not that they need to have it since now it should be a decent sized volume, but I would love to see the Logan's Run pages included volume #6, and I'm hoping that they might be able to dig up some production art for the DoCM GN to spice things up.
Dec 12 13 7:26 AM
Leocomix wrote:nakamachi wrote:I'm not a believer in the whole concept of "double dipping" or "triple dipping", to me it's just providing different format choices. If I went to a bookstore and found a nice high quality illustrated edition of "Ivanhoe" I wouldn't complain that they were double dipping because a new paperback edition just came out the year before. To me real double dipping would be if the did and expensive HC Captain Marvel, and then a year later did the exact same version but with a new cover and adding in the few Logan's Run pages. I think the prime MMW goal is to have as complete a volume as is possible. If that means reprinting MTIO Annual 2 and Avengers Annual 7 for the fourth time then so be it as long as the book is complete for the few fans out there who may not be picking up Warlock, Avengers or MTIO MMWs. I only really have a problem with it when the amount of reprinted material is more than about a third of the book or more. In Captain Marvel's case, volumes #5 and #6 were likely to be thin volumes anyway and there really wasn't much relevant material that could be added to make them more substantial other than add the two annuals. Not that they need to have it since now it should be a decent sized volume, but I would love to see the Logan's Run pages included volume #6, and I'm hoping that they might be able to dig up some production art for the DoCM GN to spice things up.I essentially agreed until you stated that MTIO Annual 2 and Avengers Annual 7 would make the book complete. They are not Captain Marvel stories. Adam Warlock stories, yes (they were commissioned to wrap the cancelled series storyline), Avengers stories, yes. They are also recapped in Captain Marvel #57, appearing at the end of this volume, because it was assumed the Captain Marvel readers might not have read these two annuals.But I guess if they had to pad that volume, it was a better choice than MTIO #45.Possibly I could concede that would make the MMW series complete (due to Starlin's involvement before and after) rather than make that specific volume complete.Wasn't #56 a better ending point? It completes the Edelman run. #57 starts a new storyline dealing with Thanos' legacy and the return of the Destroyer.
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Dec 12 13 9:30 AM
nakamachi wrote:Once the material being reprinted is easier to find in the quarter bin at your local LCS then they don't need to be in a masterwork format.
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Dec 12 13 10:07 AM
nakamachi wrote: I think the prime MMW goal is to have as complete a volume as is possible. If that means reprinting MTIO Annual 2 and Avengers Annual 7 for the fourth time then so be it as long as the book is complete for the few fans out there who may not be picking up Warlock, Avengers or MTIO MMWs. I only really have a problem with it when the amount of reprinted material is more than about a third of the book or more. In Captain Marvel's case, volumes #5 and #6 were likely to be thin volumes anyway and there really wasn't much relevant material that could be added to make them more substantial other than add the two annuals.
Dec 12 13 1:51 PM
Marshall Crist wrote:nakamachi wrote:Once the material being reprinted is easier to find in the quarter bin at your local LCS then they don't need to be in a masterwork format. That's how I feel about all these schlocky 70s comics. One man's trash...
Dec 12 13 2:50 PM
DrDoombot wrote:nakamachi wrote: I think the prime MMW goal is to have as complete a volume as is possible. If that means reprinting MTIO Annual 2 and Avengers Annual 7 for the fourth time then so be it as long as the book is complete for the few fans out there who may not be picking up Warlock, Avengers or MTIO MMWs. I only really have a problem with it when the amount of reprinted material is more than about a third of the book or more. In Captain Marvel's case, volumes #5 and #6 were likely to be thin volumes anyway and there really wasn't much relevant material that could be added to make them more substantial other than add the two annuals. That's where our preferences must differ. I see $70 for a book of ~250 pages to be quite expensive. So, I would prefer to see at least 250 pages of NEW MATERIAL. If they need to go beyond 250 pages to be complete, so be it. But I own the vast majority of the Marvel Age MMWs and I'm seeing a lot of very expensive double-dipping. The 2-in-1 MMW doesn't even have 200 pages of new material and the double-dipped issues don't appear to be "upgraded" from their first appearance in the MMW series. Captain Marvel isn't my favorite character, but I own volumes 2-4. I suspect if the MMW is going to remain viable it needs to be providing its repeat customers (which I suspect is most of its customers) with value commensurate with its $70 pricetag. One of my measures of value is pagecount in terms of material I don't already own in MMW format. My enthusiasm wanes a little every time I go over the numbers and see that the value just isn't there.
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