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davecg wrote:9 years ago Barnes and Noble published their own trade paperback MMW editions and I miss them, I think they were really good.Last week I was cleaning and dusting my book shelves and at the same time checking my MMWs and noticed some things:1. The first MMWs editions with different colors with the Comicraft cover dust jacket from before 2000 had very bad linework printing, everything has a lot of pixelationFor instance X-Men volume 3, some of the covers look very awful like the graphics of 1980s Atari videogames (remember those?) I didn't remember how bad it looked, probably back then because of the novelty I didn't notice those details but now it really annoys me to the point I'm considering to replace them by softies.2. Most of my MMW HC are the 2000s remasterworks, the pixelation and reproduction of the linework have been fixed in the recent years, but I had some problems with Captain America 1, Spider-Man 2 and FF 2 and 3. The thinner very sleek glossy paper gets all glued up together. The last months were very hot here and the pages were all stuck. But if it gets cold or they receive extended periods of air conditioning then the pages get all wrinkled. Very slowly and carefully had to check each book separate each page one by one allowing them to get some air.3. Then I have the sofcovers. I decided to buy HC only for those essential volumes in my colletion or volumes I couldn't wait to be released in sofcover. The softies allow me to read most of the MMW I wouldn't bother to buy in HC. Still, a couple of years ago they had some problems too with the paper they used in some volumes (e.g Thor 2, Avengers 3 and DD 2) awful paper, and I noticed last week that those volumes in just 2 years have deteriorated somewhat, mainly Thor 2, the level of ''whiteness'' has diminished, a bummer. Hope they don't get yellowed too soon.4. I purchased some years ago the Barnes and Noble Editions, the first UXM volumes I got them that way, and I noticed they are the ones that look the best today. They had decent reproduction level, the colors were just perfect and the paper they used was just right, not too thin nor too thick, glossy but not too much. And they are 100% white as if I bought them yesterday (even smell like new books), they don't look a day older. Wish I had bought more of them.
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DrDoombot wrote:davecg wrote:9 years ago Barnes and Noble published their own trade paperback MMW editions and I miss them, I think they were really good.Last week I was cleaning and dusting my book shelves and at the same time checking my MMWs and noticed some things:1. The first MMWs editions with different colors with the Comicraft cover dust jacket from before 2000 had very bad linework printing, everything has a lot of pixelationFor instance X-Men volume 3, some of the covers look very awful like the graphics of 1980s Atari videogames (remember those?) I didn't remember how bad it looked, probably back then because of the novelty I didn't notice those details but now it really annoys me to the point I'm considering to replace them by softies.2. Most of my MMW HC are the 2000s remasterworks, the pixelation and reproduction of the linework have been fixed in the recent years, but I had some problems with Captain America 1, Spider-Man 2 and FF 2 and 3. The thinner very sleek glossy paper gets all glued up together. The last months were very hot here and the pages were all stuck. But if it gets cold or they receive extended periods of air conditioning then the pages get all wrinkled. Very slowly and carefully had to check each book separate each page one by one allowing them to get some air.3. Then I have the sofcovers. I decided to buy HC only for those essential volumes in my colletion or volumes I couldn't wait to be released in sofcover. The softies allow me to read most of the MMW I wouldn't bother to buy in HC. Still, a couple of years ago they had some problems too with the paper they used in some volumes (e.g Thor 2, Avengers 3 and DD 2) awful paper, and I noticed last week that those volumes in just 2 years have deteriorated somewhat, mainly Thor 2, the level of ''whiteness'' has diminished, a bummer. Hope they don't get yellowed too soon.4. I purchased some years ago the Barnes and Noble Editions, the first UXM volumes I got them that way, and I noticed they are the ones that look the best today. They had decent reproduction level, the colors were just perfect and the paper they used was just right, not too thin nor too thick, glossy but not too much. And they are 100% white as if I bought them yesterday (even smell like new books), they don't look a day older. Wish I had bought more of them. I find your experience interesting, Dave. Is it common to have color deterioration with all sorts of collected editions? I only started really buying collected editions last year. The B&N editions I bought several years ago seem to be in the same condition as I bought them. I've also experienced the pages sticking together in both HC Masterworks and omnibuses upon initially opening the book, but I chalked this up to the manufacturing and not to humidity (almost as if the ink hadn't dried before binding).
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Is it common to have color deterioration with all sorts of collected editions?
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Fin Fang Foom wrote: Is it common to have color deterioration with all sorts of collected editions? Any change in color quality in the bookblock is likely due to discoloration of the paper -- the ink is unlikely to fade or to lose any of it's color quality unless it's exposed to light for long periods of time (and that's unlikely to happen, even with repeated reading).
Sep 28 12 11:37 PM
It's very unlikely but sometimes it happens. I know a certain line of very cheap tpbs from a certain company that has the problem of ink fading.
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Fin Fang Foom wrote:It's very unlikely but sometimes it happens. I know a certain line of very cheap tpbs from a certain company that has the problem of ink fading. Would you care to be a bit more specific? Or are you being vague for a reason? I know there are people 'round here live in fear that the books they buy are only moments -- moments! -- away from binding coming apart, or paper turning to dust, or some other catastrophe that will destory them forever, but fading ink color on the bookblock is even less likely. On a case or dust jacket? Sure, that's bound to happen, especially if you don't keep books out of direct sun, but other than that, it's really not something to be worried about. (Not that the other things are anything to worry about, but, you know, one step at a time.)
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jason wrote:Softcover Masterworks! Holy cow! -- Can anyone say if there are any Atlas softcovers on the way? I'm all for the Tales of Suspense/to Astonish, but reluctant to pull the trigger on $75 books just for a few Kirby/Ditko stories, no matter HOW good they are. The Jungle Adventure books have been fun, though ;PI could find these digitally, but I would rather own them.
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