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Young Romance: The Best of Simon & Kirby's 1940s-'50s Romance Comics

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Shagbag Jones		#241	[-]
Posts: 699 Feb 23 12 4:24 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	How about a hardcover anthology of Jack Cole's pre-code crime and horror stories? That would be like setting a hot match to dynamite.
Michel Gagne		#242	[-]
Posts: 141 Feb 23 12 4:27 PM Bronze Age Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I have another plan for a reprint book to be published by Fantagraphics, and this time I'm going to be teaming up with somebody from this board who is extremelly talented in the art of restoration. More to come, later.
Silveragemarvelman		#243	[-]
Posts: 10233 Feb 23 12 9:40 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hmmm. I think I can figure that one out, maybe.
AussieStu		#244	[-]
Posts: 11784 Feb 23 12 10:46 PM Golden Age Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	... so famac wasn't interested? The Negative Zone Stan Lee, 1968: " ... And we talk it out. Lately, I've had Roy Thomas come in, and he sits and makes notes while we discuss it. Then he types them up which gives us a written synopsis. Originally-I have a little tape recorder-I had tried taping it, but then I found no one on staff has time to listen to the tape again later. But this way he makes notes, types it quickly, I get a carbon, the artist gets a carbon...so we don't have to worry that we'll forget what we've said. Then the artist goes home...or wherever he goes...and he draws the thing out, brings it back, and I put the copy in after he's drawn the story based on the plot I've given him. Now this varies with the different artists. Some artists, of course, need a more detailed plot than others. Some artists, such as Jack Kirby, need no plot at all. I mean I'll just say to Jack, 'Let's make the next villain be Dr. Doom'... or I may not even say that. He may tell me. And then he goes home and does it. He's good at plots. I'm sure he's a thousand times better than I. He just about makes up the plots for these stories. All I do is a little editing... I may tell him he's gone too far in one direction or another. Of course, occasionally I'll give him a plot, but we're practically both the writers on the things. "
G Randall		#245	[-]
Posts: 504 Mar 10 12 9:18 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I was on the road this week, but had time to pop into an LCS. I like to support a local store, but only wanted to buy one book to not add too much to my carry-on. Michel, your book was that one book -- and its contents and production values justified my paying 33% higher than via my regular vendors. I thoroughly enjoyed it on the plane -- even if the teenage girl next to me thought I was a kook (or worse).
bem		#246	[-]
Posts: 235 Mar 10 12 10:56 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Dark Horse is doing some of the titles Jack Cole worked on.I think the Claw or Daredevil or whater the title is. and the 1st vol. of Crime does not pay is coming out. I'm in a bit of a quandry as I only want some of the Crime does not pay material and not all of it. But whatever project Gagne works on, I'm sure will be worthwhile.
Michel Gagne	Fantagraphics signing and discussion - Seattle, April 15th	#247	[-]
Posts: 141 Apr 8 12 6:20 PM Bronze Age Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I thought some of you might be interested in this: http://www.gagneint.com/Final%20site/Whatsnew/archive/2012/04_april/08.html
cromagnonman		#248	[-]
Posts: 444 Apr 9 12 9:11 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Michel Gagne wrote: I have another plan for a reprint book to be published by Fantagraphics, and this time I'm going to be teaming up with somebody from this board who is extremelly talented in the art of restoration. More to come, later. you were responsible for Young Romance? i loved that book, thats how they all should be done. and, great price too. can you tell us what genre this new book is going to cover?
seattleguy		#249	[-]
Posts: 1004 Apr 15 12 12:12 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	For you restoration buffs and experts out there I attended a show this evening that Fantagraphics put on featuring Michel who gave a talk on the process and restoration methods that he developed on his Simon and Kirby Young Romance book. It was very interesting although sometimes over my head in terms of various techniques and technical terms that Mr. Gagne discribed. It is a darn shame that those of you who are in the restoration field were not able to hear it. I never realized the amount of work involved to produce restored comic book artwork. Very enjoyable to listen to.
Fin Fang Foom		#250	[-]
Posts: 9359 Apr 15 12 5:35 PM Registered Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I think it's all fascinating. I mean, just to arrive at clean black line art from printed source material, there's this perception that you just, you know, "turn off the color," or at the very least, just discard the three other process plates. But it's never that easy. I think it's swell that we're moving into an era of working with the color that's already there, instead of trying to replace it, because the results will be more authentic. A Week Ago Tuesday: My blog, where I never, ever write about comics (though I think I did, once or twice).
alexarkadin		#251	[-]
Posts: 745 Apr 15 12 5:43 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	It's my understanding Greg Theakston is in the process of preparing a S&K Romance collection. I'd like to urge either Michel or Harry and Steve to move ahead with further S&K Romance reprints. Obviously there is a market for the material, and I'd far rather have a nice color hardcover as opposed to a slim B&W softcover at around the same price Greg Theakston charges for his collections. The material IS Public Domain so the thing for Titan to do is put out a quality collection which renders low grade B&W softcovers moot.
Fin Fang Foom		#252	[-]
Posts: 9359 Apr 15 12 6:39 PM Registered Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	It's my understanding Greg Theakston is in the process of preparing a S&K Romance collection. Is this substantially different from the one he prepared for Eclipse many years ago? (And wasn't that reissued at some point?) A Week Ago Tuesday: My blog, where I never, ever write about comics (though I think I did, once or twice).
seattleguy		#253	[-]
Posts: 1004 Apr 15 12 10:50 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	One thing that Michel said that I thought was interesting was the determination as to how much to restore and how much to leave in. If I remember correctly he said that he sometimes had to go back and muddy (I think that that was the term he used) the colors up a bit so as to maintain that comic book look and feel.
alexarkadin		#254	[-]
Posts: 745 Apr 15 12 11:51 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Fin Fang Foom wrote: Is this substantially different from the one he prepared for Eclipse many years ago? (And wasn't that reissued at some point?) Different book with some overlap. As I understand it it's all the longer lead features written, penciled, and inked by Kirby 1951-1952. It will include THE GIRL WHO TEMPTED ME. The splash page from that story will serve as the cover.
GHastly55		#255	[-]
Posts: 4344 May 9 12 9:37 PM Registered Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Folks, I'm bubbling this thread up from obscurity because I'm finally getting around to reading this, and so far the stories are absolutely riveting!! Comparing this to the book I just finished, Amazing Mysteries: The Bill Everett Archives Vol. 1, is like comparing chalk and cheese. I felt I was reading the Everett book out of obligation, but I am really enjoying the S&L book immensely!! Highly recommended!!! It also provided me with some insight on the evolution of the comics market. Superheroes were, of course, the first fad, but funny animals quickly became popular as well. But as soon as TV brought carttons into the living room, the funny animal comics began to wither away. Superheroes had a renaissance because of the state of special effects in film and TV at the time -- Kirby, Steranko, Adams, Kane, et al, could do things on the printed four-color page that couldn't be done on the silver screen. Different story nowadays, which is why comics are largely a nostalgia market. It was the same way with romance comics. There are extremely well-told, compelling stories in this volume, and in the absence of television and paperback romance novels, I can definitely see what the mainstream attraction was in these books and why they sold in the millions. This is my first exposure to the S&K romance line, I had only ever checked out a few of the early-sixties books and found them dull as dishwater. But S&K really knew their craft, and consistently deliver a quality product here. If you've been on the fence about this volume, get off it and make your positive buying decision NOW. The only complaint that many of us might have is that it is a best-of and not a complete archival type of release, but truthfully that just might be part of its charm.
alexarkadin		#256	[-]
Posts: 745 May 10 12 8:23 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	ROY THOMAS TJKC #18.http://twomorrows.com/kirby/articles/18thomas.html Jack had certainly written a lot of great stories in his day; there was no doubt about Jack's talent as a creator. He'd written stuff that back in the '40s and '50s was well above the level for the field. It didn't seem to traffic quite as well in the '60s. Certain aspects of it did. There's a certain poetry about Jack, in concepts and phrasing. Other things could be a little bit clumsy, but you just take them all together, and they make a very interesting read, especially his Fourth World stuff at DC. I'd look at it, and I'd see these words in quotation marks, and weird things that bothered me, but at the same time there's this kind of poetic feeling. He wasn't the only person who'd go to the Bible and other places for inspiration. Stan did, I did, we all went to the classics for inspiration. But Jack was certainly one person who did that. He was a sensitive guy, a poetic guy, an intelligent guy; and that was bound to be reflected in the work.

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