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hmendryk wrote:famac wrote:The credits relect a change in process for the Crime volume.No, the credits do not reflect a change in process. The Superheroes book included stories that had never been colored before, most notably Captain 3-D. I colored them in a manner comparable to what was used in Simon and Kirby publications but it was my coloring. In recognition of this the credits became "Art Restoration and New Colors". However this same credits were mistakenly applied to the Crime volume as well. All the contents of the Crime story were restored from original comics and no new coloring was done.Harry
famac wrote:The credits relect a change in process for the Crime volume.
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alexarkadin wrote: hmendryk wrote: famac wrote: The credits relect a change in process for the Crime volume.No, the credits do not reflect a change in process. The Superheroes book included stories that had never been colored before, most notably Captain 3-D. I colored them in a manner comparable to what was used in Simon and Kirby publications but it was my coloring. In recognition of this the credits became "Art Restoration and New Colors". However this same credits were mistakenly applied to the Crime volume as well. All the contents of the Crime story were restored from original comics and no new coloring was done.HarryRight on the title page of the Superheroes book: Art restoration and new colors by Harry Mendryk. The story "Stuntman Crowns a Jungle Lord" was also colored by Harry I assume.
hmendryk wrote: famac wrote: The credits relect a change in process for the Crime volume.No, the credits do not reflect a change in process. The Superheroes book included stories that had never been colored before, most notably Captain 3-D. I colored them in a manner comparable to what was used in Simon and Kirby publications but it was my coloring. In recognition of this the credits became "Art Restoration and New Colors". However this same credits were mistakenly applied to the Crime volume as well. All the contents of the Crime story were restored from original comics and no new coloring was done.Harry
famac wrote: The credits relect a change in process for the Crime volume.
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alexarkadin wrote:In many ways I think Michel's book will prove to be a favor to the Titan S&K Library.For what ever reason it seems pretty clear Steve and Titan don't see the Romance genre as particularly commercial. Michel's book will show if there is a market for the Romance work.
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Here's a sample of the original comic versus S&K Crime. Note flesh tones use the modern mix of magenta and yellow dots. Also note a mistake was made on the color of the womans hair - in the original the hairs is a mix of cyan and magenta bars, while the restored version feature magenta bars with blue dots.Also note that the colors are ultra small dots on the remaster compared to solid tones on the original. The ultra tight dot matrix is the reason so many comics today can be over-colored.
Feb 18 12 5:50 PM
famac wrote: Here's a sample of the original comic versus S&K Crime. Note flesh tones use the modern mix of magenta and yellow dots. Also note a mistake was made on the color of the womans hair - in the original the hairs is a mix of cyan and magenta bars, while the restored version feature magenta bars with blue dots.Also note that the colors are ultra small dots on the remaster compared to solid tones on the original. The ultra tight dot matrix is the reason so many comics today can be over-colored.
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hmendryk wrote:famac wrote: Here's a sample of the original comic versus S&K Crime. Note flesh tones use the modern mix of magenta and yellow dots. Also note a mistake was made on the color of the womans hair - in the original the hairs is a mix of cyan and magenta bars, while the restored version feature magenta bars with blue dots.Also note that the colors are ultra small dots on the remaster compared to solid tones on the original. The ultra tight dot matrix is the reason so many comics today can be over-colored.Shame on you famac. I have gotten used to you constant attacks and inaccurate statements. But to take over a thread about someone else's book to do so?Harry
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Feb 19 12 4:23 AM
famac wrote: All of the coloring in Crime is new. It's not the original coloring, but a replica of it - as plainly seen above. I understand what you are saying - you didn't change any colors (although you clearly changed the skin tones on every page) but the fact is the last two books are working from restored line art and color reconstruction - the Marvel method - and 'the Best of' was largely cleaned up scans.
Feb 19 12 7:13 AM
famac wrote:Haha - that's the pot calling the peddle black. Anyway - people are talking about it on this thread. Here is what you wrote on this thread, Harry: "However this same credits were mistakenly applied to the Crime volume as well. All the contents of the Crime story were restored from original comics and no new coloring was done." My constant attacks and inaccurate statements? All of the coloring in Crime is new. It's not the original coloring, but a replica of it - as plainly seen above. I understand what you are saying - you didn't change any colors (although you clearly changed the skin tones on every page) but the fact is the last two books are working from restored line art and color reconstruction - the Marvel method - and 'the Best of' was largely cleaned up scans. I normally wouldn't respond in someone else's thread in this manner - but you must think people are stupid or something - that they can't see the truth right in front of them - and you just keep on pushing the same nonsense. But the worse part about it is you and I have had the debate about line art reconstruction many times on this board. You were always the big purist - restoring line art was redrawing and "the Marvel books aren't the real art" - and now you are using the exact same method I have promoted in countless posts - but you just won't man up and admit it.
famac wrote:The credits relect a change in process for the Crime volume.LOL! Where do you come up with these ideas? No, the credits do not reflect a change in process. The techniques used for Crime were also used in Superheroes. But thanks for bringing it up because it gives me the opportunity to explain the Crime credits. The Superheroes book included stories that had never been colored before, most notably Captain 3-D. I colored them in a manner comparable to what was used in Simon and Kirby publications but it was my coloring. In recognition of this the credits became "Art Restoration and New Colors". However this same credits were mistakenly applied to the Crime volume as well. All the contents of the Crime story were restored from original comics and no new coloring was done.
Feb 19 12 8:54 AM
hmendryk wrote:hmendryk wrote:LOL! Where do you come up with these ideas? No, the credits do not reflect a change in process. The techniques used for Crime were also used in Superheroes. But thanks for bringing it up because it gives me the opportunity to explain the Crime credits. The Superheroes book included stories that had never been colored before, most notably Captain 3-D. I colored them in a manner comparable to what was used in Simon and Kirby publications but it was my coloring. In recognition of this the credits became "Art Restoration and New Colors". However this same credits were mistakenly applied to the Crime volume as well. All the contents of the Crime story were restored from original comics and no new coloring was done.3) I never claimed that that I was not restoring colors. Sometimes I can use the original colors, sometimes I can't. Take a look at the splash for Burned at the Stake. Look at the light blue in the uniforms. Original color. You are inaccurate about the changing skin tones. Yellow dots were used, at least in many cases. It is just that they used the same angle as the magenta and the ink has faded. Using the same angle can result in Moire patterns so I had to change that. Despite your claims my fundamental methods have not changed in any of my volumes.
hmendryk wrote:LOL! Where do you come up with these ideas? No, the credits do not reflect a change in process. The techniques used for Crime were also used in Superheroes. But thanks for bringing it up because it gives me the opportunity to explain the Crime credits. The Superheroes book included stories that had never been colored before, most notably Captain 3-D. I colored them in a manner comparable to what was used in Simon and Kirby publications but it was my coloring. In recognition of this the credits became "Art Restoration and New Colors". However this same credits were mistakenly applied to the Crime volume as well. All the contents of the Crime story were restored from original comics and no new coloring was done.
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