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MRCOMICBOOK wrote:maybe instead of regurgirating the same old tired group who keep getting canceled, maybe they should come up with some new characters.
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Gary O 1 wrote:Gary "got #8 in the mail today and did notice the paper quality has dropped dramatically" O.
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jhalbright wrote: MRCOMICBOOK wrote: maybe instead of regurgirating the same old tired group who keep getting canceled, maybe they should come up with some new characters.I don't see any problem with trying out new series with old characters. After all, you'll get gems like Morrison's Animal Man, Morrison's Doom Patrol, Gaiman's Sandman, Wagner's Zorro, (and a hundred other titles that are slipping my mind right now).Hell, Alan Moore has made an entire career out of regurgitating the same old tired characters (Watchmen, Miracle Man, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Tom Strong, Lost Girls, etc). Trying out new titles with pre-existing characters is a helluva lot better than yet another Spider-Man, or Wolverine, or Batman title.(Spencer's Thunder Agents is a great read.)
MRCOMICBOOK wrote: maybe instead of regurgirating the same old tired group who keep getting canceled, maybe they should come up with some new characters.
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May 10 11 12:09 PM
MRCOMICBOOK wrote: There is a reason why the younger generation has flocked to manga and videogames,as the manga and the video game industry constantly continue to create new and exciting characters each year, while here in our little niche comic book world we contine to get nostalgic about regurgirated characters who continue to get cancelled decade after decade.
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May 10 11 12:16 PM
fubarthepanda wrote: MRCOMICBOOK wrote: There is a reason why the younger generation has flocked to manga and videogames,as the manga and the video game industry constantly continue to create new and exciting characters each year, while here in our little niche comic book world we contine to get nostalgic about regurgirated characters who continue to get cancelled decade after decade.On a creative level, I agree. However, I'm not sure there's much evidence of that from a sales perspective. The recent BATMAN and SPIDER-MAN films are always among the year's biggest box office, and they're basically doing the same regurgitation. They're also among the most popular recurring animated television characters (not to mention video games). Back to comics, Morrison doing BATMAN is going to outsell Morrison doing an original Vertigo book something like 4 to 1. Millar doing WOLVERINE is going to sell Millar doing an Icon book, etc. I think the decline in overall comics readership has more to do with the industry intentionally producing a product for a niche audience (i.e. aging adults who like super-heroes), instead of producing more accessible books for younger readers. But I do think that when publishers are doing both -- i.e. creating original concepts as well as servicing their existing icons -- then they are at their strongest.
May 10 11 12:25 PM
kirbyfanatic wrote: So I don't know what to say when old standbys don't succeed except that new characters are needed.
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May 10 11 4:18 PM
I noticed the books sliding each solicit, as disappointed as I am I hope Dark Horse can recover their costs and Jim Shooter gets more work.I always wondered why he does not come up with something on his own these days instead of getting assigned to re-hashing stuff he has been to known for working or being associated with.
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Sector3600 wrote:I noticed the books sliding each solicit, as disappointed as I am I hope Dark Horse can recover their costs and Jim Shooter gets more work.I always wondered why he does not come up with something on his own these days instead of getting assigned to re-hashing stuff he has been to known for working or being associated with.
May 11 11 1:09 AM
OwlzinDaBarn wrote:Maybe he's too defiant--maybe he left his regards to Broadway--
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Gary O 1 wrote:Ugh. Not that I care a whit for the new Gold Key books, but I really do worry that this might affect the Archives. And that would bum me out because I want to see the Turok Archives continue. Gary "got #8 in the mail today and did notice the paper quality has dropped dramatically" O.
May 12 11 9:57 PM
fubarthepanda wrote:I look at myself as a target demographic: I was raised on super-hero comics and still enjoy reading them today and have two kids who also both enjoy comics. However, I rarely touch a modern Marvel book with a ten-foot pole -- and it has nothing to do with the characters. I just don't want to read "adult" super-hero comics -- if I want to read more adult comics, I'd much rather (and do) read books from Fantagraphics, D&Q and Top Shelf (not to mention European comics and manga). I took my kids to the LCS for FCBD over the weekend, and all of the kids were fighting over a small spinner rack of Archie and DC's kids book and didn't bat a single eye at any of the "mainstream" product coming out of Marvel/DC. Of course, these kids only come to the LCS once a year, so it's not a recurring sale, but it did clearly illustrate to me that if you can find a way to get the books made for kids in-front of kids, they will buy them. Which is probably why Archie comics today sell just as much as Bendis Avengers, just outside the direct market.
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Jun 11 11 4:09 PM
...all these other characters have been "redefined" so many times by so many hands that the fans neither recognize nor care about them anymore.
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