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XIII wrote: I was lucky enough to see the first post of this thread before it vanished, so I'm more stoked than ever about this. The truth is I haven't read this run, but I'm a huge Simonson fan from reading most of his other stuff, and I have resisted the temptation to buy the Visionaries books knowing that a beautiful definitive omnibus edition would arrive sooner or later. Anyway, I've been researching the possible contents of the Omnibus, and I submit the results to your consideration. Any correction, addition, improvement or comment is welcome. The THOR BY WALT SIMONSON OMNIBUS will be one single book (and not two, I hope) reprinting the same material than the 5 Visionaries books: The Mighty Thor #337-355, 357-369, 371-382(356 and 370 excluded for being fill-ins from other creators)Balder the Brave #1-4 That is, 44 issues of Thor:999 pages + 44 covers and 4 issues of Balder (but this time, unlike in the tpbs, in their proper chronological place):92 pages + 4 covers + a 2 page pin-up poster. Total: 1091 comic pages + 48 covers = 1139 pages That's really massive but "Punisher by Ennis", with 1192 pages, was even bigger. However, that leaves us with little precious space for... EXTRAS: The aforementioned 2 page pin-up/poster from Balder the Brave #4, (which I don't know if it's reprinted in the visionaries or in the Balder MCP hardcover).2 pages Wraparound original cover for The Mighty Thor: The Ballad of Beta Ray Bill TPB.2 pages Original cover for "Thor Visionaries: Walter Simonson (2001)"http://www.comicbookdb.com/graphics/comic_graphics/1/101/54737_20060730090844_large.jpgand also from the same volume:3 pages of "Sketches and final work of Walter Simonson's Thor run".4 pages Thor pin-up by Simonson, from Marvel Age #10.1 page Thor pin-up by Simonson, from Marvel Fanfare #45.1 page Then, there's a thing called:Marvel: Portraits of a Universe #3 (May 1995)http://www.maelmill-insi.de/UHBMCC/munivers.htm#S3592N3FT"Each 'portrait' is 2 pages with commentary by Walter Simonson, depicting a modern painting of a scene from a classic comic"One of them is:Thor vs. Beta Ray Bill (Thor (I) #337) Walter Simonson - Art by Dennis Calero.2 pagesThat makes 12 pages of extras to add. Total: 1151 pages so far. Then there's this little curiosity from Thor #341:http://www.comics.org/issue/38463/"SECRET WARS #1-12 takes place between pages 2 and 3; Three blank panels depict the event and the "paste in" panels are provided on the letters page next issue."I don't know if those 3 panels have been included in the visionaries, and if so, how: separately or pasted over the original 3 blank panels, but they will certainly must be on the Omnibus. There was a thread on the board long ago suggesting a Thor Omnibus "Companion", fashioned after the Miller DD Companion that featured DD works by Miller outside his main run. http://marvelmasterworksfansite.yuku.com/topic/7109/t/Simonson-Thor-Omnibus-Companion.htmlI'm sorry but I think the idea is totally unfeasible but some of the stuff proposed in that thread could easily be included as extras in the Omnibus:In fact, there are 2 short stories that really should be included (specially the first one):Avengers #3007-page story "The coming of the accursed Avengers!" (or Avengers #1 from Loki's perspective), co-written by Ralph Macchio and Simonson, with art by Simonson.Marvel Super-Heroes (1990) #15 "Volstagg's mostly greatest adventure" Written by Simonson - Pencils-Joe Barney (and cover)http://www.comicbookdb.com/graphics/comic_graphics/1/102/55072_20060731080625_large.jpg17 pages + 1 pin-up + cover That would make another 26 extra pages to add. Total: 1177 pages so far. Still smaller than Punisher-Ennis. Finally, 3 Thor-related covers by Simonson:Captain Marvel v4 #7 coverhttp://www.comics.org/issue/126762/cover/4/Thor Annual #7 and #13 covershttp://www.comics.org/issue/39525/cover/4/http://www.comics.org/issue/31795/cover/4/(In fact, Thor Annual #13 happens around Thor #354, in the midst of Simonson's run, but he only does the cover). And, as suggested in that thread:X-Factor #17 splash page (a big pic of armoured Thor by Walt S). Total: 1182 pages. 10 less pages than Ennis' Punisher, but I'm sure they'll still surprise us with more unearthed sketches or other material to fill a few more pages.
I was lucky enough to see the first post of this thread before it vanished, so I'm more stoked than ever about this. The truth is I haven't read this run, but I'm a huge Simonson fan from reading most of his other stuff, and I have resisted the temptation to buy the Visionaries books knowing that a beautiful definitive omnibus edition would arrive sooner or later.
Anyway, I've been researching the possible contents of the Omnibus, and I submit the results to your consideration. Any correction, addition, improvement or comment is welcome.
The THOR BY WALT SIMONSON OMNIBUS will be one single book (and not two, I hope) reprinting the same material than the 5 Visionaries books:
The Mighty Thor #337-355, 357-369, 371-382(356 and 370 excluded for being fill-ins from other creators)Balder the Brave #1-4
That is, 44 issues of Thor:999 pages + 44 covers
and 4 issues of Balder (but this time, unlike in the tpbs, in their proper chronological place):92 pages + 4 covers + a 2 page pin-up poster.
Total: 1091 comic pages + 48 covers = 1139 pages
That's really massive but "Punisher by Ennis", with 1192 pages, was even bigger. However, that leaves us with little precious space for... EXTRAS:
The aforementioned 2 page pin-up/poster from Balder the Brave #4, (which I don't know if it's reprinted in the visionaries or in the Balder MCP hardcover).2 pages
Wraparound original cover for The Mighty Thor: The Ballad of Beta Ray Bill TPB.2 pages
Original cover for "Thor Visionaries: Walter Simonson (2001)"http://www.comicbookdb.com/graphics/comic_graphics/1/101/54737_20060730090844_large.jpgand also from the same volume:3 pages of "Sketches and final work of Walter Simonson's Thor run".4 pages
Thor pin-up by Simonson, from Marvel Age #10.1 page
Thor pin-up by Simonson, from Marvel Fanfare #45.1 page
Then, there's a thing called:Marvel: Portraits of a Universe #3 (May 1995)http://www.maelmill-insi.de/UHBMCC/munivers.htm#S3592N3FT"Each 'portrait' is 2 pages with commentary by Walter Simonson, depicting a modern painting of a scene from a classic comic"One of them is:Thor vs. Beta Ray Bill (Thor (I) #337) Walter Simonson - Art by Dennis Calero.2 pagesThat makes 12 pages of extras to add. Total: 1151 pages so far.
Then there's this little curiosity from Thor #341:http://www.comics.org/issue/38463/"SECRET WARS #1-12 takes place between pages 2 and 3; Three blank panels depict the event and the "paste in" panels are provided on the letters page next issue."I don't know if those 3 panels have been included in the visionaries, and if so, how: separately or pasted over the original 3 blank panels, but they will certainly must be on the Omnibus. There was a thread on the board long ago suggesting a Thor Omnibus "Companion", fashioned after the Miller DD Companion that featured DD works by Miller outside his main run. http://marvelmasterworksfansite.yuku.com/topic/7109/t/Simonson-Thor-Omnibus-Companion.htmlI'm sorry but I think the idea is totally unfeasible but some of the stuff proposed in that thread could easily be included as extras in the Omnibus:In fact, there are 2 short stories that really should be included (specially the first one):Avengers #3007-page story "The coming of the accursed Avengers!" (or Avengers #1 from Loki's perspective), co-written by Ralph Macchio and Simonson, with art by Simonson.Marvel Super-Heroes (1990) #15 "Volstagg's mostly greatest adventure" Written by Simonson - Pencils-Joe Barney (and cover)http://www.comicbookdb.com/graphics/comic_graphics/1/102/55072_20060731080625_large.jpg17 pages + 1 pin-up + cover
That would make another 26 extra pages to add. Total: 1177 pages so far. Still smaller than Punisher-Ennis.
Finally, 3 Thor-related covers by Simonson:Captain Marvel v4 #7 coverhttp://www.comics.org/issue/126762/cover/4/Thor Annual #7 and #13 covershttp://www.comics.org/issue/39525/cover/4/http://www.comics.org/issue/31795/cover/4/(In fact, Thor Annual #13 happens around Thor #354, in the midst of Simonson's run, but he only does the cover).
And, as suggested in that thread:X-Factor #17 splash page (a big pic of armoured Thor by Walt S).
Total: 1182 pages. 10 less pages than Ennis' Punisher, but I'm sure they'll still surprise us with more unearthed sketches or other material to fill a few more pages.
Pretty much nailed it on the page count. Only off by 10.We'll see about the extras.
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apophenia wrote:Would you guys be willing to pay extra for the omnibus if it was split into 2 books in a slipcase?
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apophenia wrote:Would you guys be willing to pay extra for the omnibus if it was split into 2 books in a slipcase? It occured to me whilst thumbing through the already hefty Straczynski omnibus....that the Simonson book is going to be basically twice as thick as that...and I've yet to finish reading the ASM omnibus that I've owned for almost 2 years because of how unweildy the thing is. The more Omniboo I get, the more I find myself agreeing with the posters that say the excessively large ones are a bad idea...I think the first Cap omnibus is the optimal size. Point being, I'd pay an extra 25 doll hairs to get the thing split into 2 books and put in a slipcase.
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SamyMerchi wrote:I'd happily pay $25 more for two thinner volumes.
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ElectricPeterTork wrote: It's no longer just a "maybe one day" book...http://www.bleedingcool.c...t-simonsonsthor-omnibus/Uncle Walt shares a couple of recolored pages from the Thor omnibus that reprints his run.
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