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Sep 12 10 1:14 PM
XIII wrote: I was lucky enough to see the first post of this thread before it vanished, so I'm more stoked than ever about this. The truth is I haven't read this run, but I'm a huge Simonson fan from reading most of his other stuff, and I have resisted the temptation to buy the Visionaries books knowing that a beautiful definitive omnibus edition would arrive sooner or later. Anyway, I've been researching the possible contents of the Omnibus, and I submit the results to your consideration. Any correction, addition, improvement or comment is welcome. The THOR BY WALT SIMONSON OMNIBUS will be one single book (and not two, I hope) reprinting the same material than the 5 Visionaries books: The Mighty Thor #337-355, 357-369, 371-382(356 and 370 excluded for being fill-ins from other creators)Balder the Brave #1-4 That is, 44 issues of Thor:999 pages + 44 covers and 4 issues of Balder (but this time, unlike in the tpbs, in their proper chronological place):92 pages + 4 covers + a 2 page pin-up poster. Total: 1091 comic pages + 48 covers = 1139 pages That's really massive but "Punisher by Ennis", with 1192 pages, was even bigger. However, that leaves us with little precious space for... EXTRAS: The aforementioned 2 page pin-up/poster from Balder the Brave #4, (which I don't know if it's reprinted in the visionaries or in the Balder MCP hardcover).2 pages Wraparound original cover for The Mighty Thor: The Ballad of Beta Ray Bill TPB.2 pages Original cover for "Thor Visionaries: Walter Simonson (2001)"http://www.comicbookdb.com/graphics/comic_graphics/1/101/54737_20060730090844_large.jpgand also from the same volume:3 pages of "Sketches and final work of Walter Simonson's Thor run".4 pages Thor pin-up by Simonson, from Marvel Age #10.1 page Thor pin-up by Simonson, from Marvel Fanfare #45.1 page Then, there's a thing called:Marvel: Portraits of a Universe #3 (May 1995)http://www.maelmill-insi.de/UHBMCC/munivers.htm#S3592N3FT"Each 'portrait' is 2 pages with commentary by Walter Simonson, depicting a modern painting of a scene from a classic comic"One of them is:Thor vs. Beta Ray Bill (Thor (I) #337) Walter Simonson - Art by Dennis Calero.2 pagesThat makes 12 pages of extras to add. Total: 1151 pages so far. Then there's this little curiosity from Thor #341:http://www.comics.org/issue/38463/"SECRET WARS #1-12 takes place between pages 2 and 3; Three blank panels depict the event and the "paste in" panels are provided on the letters page next issue."I don't know if those 3 panels have been included in the visionaries, and if so, how: separately or pasted over the original 3 blank panels, but they will certainly must be on the Omnibus. There was a thread on the board long ago suggesting a Thor Omnibus "Companion", fashioned after the Miller DD Companion that featured DD works by Miller outside his main run. http://marvelmasterworksfansite.yuku.com/topic/7109/t/Simonson-Thor-Omnibus-Companion.htmlI'm sorry but I think the idea is totally unfeasible but some of the stuff proposed in that thread could easily be included as extras in the Omnibus:In fact, there are 2 short stories that really should be included (specially the first one):Avengers #3007-page story "The coming of the accursed Avengers!" (or Avengers #1 from Loki's perspective), co-written by Ralph Macchio and Simonson, with art by Simonson.Marvel Super-Heroes (1990) #15 "Volstagg's mostly greatest adventure" Written by Simonson - Pencils-Joe Barney (and cover)http://www.comicbookdb.com/graphics/comic_graphics/1/102/55072_20060731080625_large.jpg17 pages + 1 pin-up + cover That would make another 26 extra pages to add. Total: 1177 pages so far. Still smaller than Punisher-Ennis. Finally, 3 Thor-related covers by Simonson:Captain Marvel v4 #7 coverhttp://www.comics.org/issue/126762/cover/4/Thor Annual #7 and #13 covershttp://www.comics.org/issue/39525/cover/4/http://www.comics.org/issue/31795/cover/4/(In fact, Thor Annual #13 happens around Thor #354, in the midst of Simonson's run, but he only does the cover). And, as suggested in that thread:X-Factor #17 splash page (a big pic of armoured Thor by Walt S). Total: 1182 pages. 10 less pages than Ennis' Punisher, but I'm sure they'll still surprise us with more unearthed sketches or other material to fill a few more pages.
I was lucky enough to see the first post of this thread before it vanished, so I'm more stoked than ever about this. The truth is I haven't read this run, but I'm a huge Simonson fan from reading most of his other stuff, and I have resisted the temptation to buy the Visionaries books knowing that a beautiful definitive omnibus edition would arrive sooner or later.
Anyway, I've been researching the possible contents of the Omnibus, and I submit the results to your consideration. Any correction, addition, improvement or comment is welcome.
The THOR BY WALT SIMONSON OMNIBUS will be one single book (and not two, I hope) reprinting the same material than the 5 Visionaries books:
The Mighty Thor #337-355, 357-369, 371-382(356 and 370 excluded for being fill-ins from other creators)Balder the Brave #1-4
That is, 44 issues of Thor:999 pages + 44 covers
and 4 issues of Balder (but this time, unlike in the tpbs, in their proper chronological place):92 pages + 4 covers + a 2 page pin-up poster.
Total: 1091 comic pages + 48 covers = 1139 pages
That's really massive but "Punisher by Ennis", with 1192 pages, was even bigger. However, that leaves us with little precious space for... EXTRAS:
The aforementioned 2 page pin-up/poster from Balder the Brave #4, (which I don't know if it's reprinted in the visionaries or in the Balder MCP hardcover).2 pages
Wraparound original cover for The Mighty Thor: The Ballad of Beta Ray Bill TPB.2 pages
Original cover for "Thor Visionaries: Walter Simonson (2001)"http://www.comicbookdb.com/graphics/comic_graphics/1/101/54737_20060730090844_large.jpgand also from the same volume:3 pages of "Sketches and final work of Walter Simonson's Thor run".4 pages
Thor pin-up by Simonson, from Marvel Age #10.1 page
Thor pin-up by Simonson, from Marvel Fanfare #45.1 page
Then, there's a thing called:Marvel: Portraits of a Universe #3 (May 1995)http://www.maelmill-insi.de/UHBMCC/munivers.htm#S3592N3FT"Each 'portrait' is 2 pages with commentary by Walter Simonson, depicting a modern painting of a scene from a classic comic"One of them is:Thor vs. Beta Ray Bill (Thor (I) #337) Walter Simonson - Art by Dennis Calero.2 pagesThat makes 12 pages of extras to add. Total: 1151 pages so far.
Then there's this little curiosity from Thor #341:http://www.comics.org/issue/38463/"SECRET WARS #1-12 takes place between pages 2 and 3; Three blank panels depict the event and the "paste in" panels are provided on the letters page next issue."I don't know if those 3 panels have been included in the visionaries, and if so, how: separately or pasted over the original 3 blank panels, but they will certainly must be on the Omnibus. There was a thread on the board long ago suggesting a Thor Omnibus "Companion", fashioned after the Miller DD Companion that featured DD works by Miller outside his main run. http://marvelmasterworksfansite.yuku.com/topic/7109/t/Simonson-Thor-Omnibus-Companion.htmlI'm sorry but I think the idea is totally unfeasible but some of the stuff proposed in that thread could easily be included as extras in the Omnibus:In fact, there are 2 short stories that really should be included (specially the first one):Avengers #3007-page story "The coming of the accursed Avengers!" (or Avengers #1 from Loki's perspective), co-written by Ralph Macchio and Simonson, with art by Simonson.Marvel Super-Heroes (1990) #15 "Volstagg's mostly greatest adventure" Written by Simonson - Pencils-Joe Barney (and cover)http://www.comicbookdb.com/graphics/comic_graphics/1/102/55072_20060731080625_large.jpg17 pages + 1 pin-up + cover
That would make another 26 extra pages to add. Total: 1177 pages so far. Still smaller than Punisher-Ennis.
Finally, 3 Thor-related covers by Simonson:Captain Marvel v4 #7 coverhttp://www.comics.org/issue/126762/cover/4/Thor Annual #7 and #13 covershttp://www.comics.org/issue/39525/cover/4/http://www.comics.org/issue/31795/cover/4/(In fact, Thor Annual #13 happens around Thor #354, in the midst of Simonson's run, but he only does the cover).
And, as suggested in that thread:X-Factor #17 splash page (a big pic of armoured Thor by Walt S).
Total: 1182 pages. 10 less pages than Ennis' Punisher, but I'm sure they'll still surprise us with more unearthed sketches or other material to fill a few more pages.
Pretty much nailed it on the page count. Only off by 10.We'll see about the extras.
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