Deejayway wrote (Post #35):

I was reading this thread with a familiar feeling of deja vu (how many times have swords been drawn over this issue?) and a strange growing fascination. . . .

"Why are (some) people on opposite sides of the issue so fierce about it?" I wondered. It's not like they have a personal stake in it.
That's not right. No way.


I agree! 

Deejayway also wrote (Post #42):

So basically if a corporation takes advantage of a situation by having someone over a barrel, it's fair to exploit them and there should never be any chance of redress?
How anyone can defend such a notion is beyond me.
That's like defending slavery because it was legal at the time.
Exploitation is exploitation and there are morals that transcend legalities.
The way Kirby was treated by Marvel was indefenisble and the way Marvel/Disney still dodge the issue behind a wall of lawyers is a disgrace.

I agree!

Deejayway wrote (Post #58):

I'm a practical person and all for practical solutions, the most elegant solution is settlement out of court. Heck Disney/Marvel can spin it in such away that they could probably defray the costs as public relations. . . .

I think a million bucks per  property is a fair so five millions dollars for the Kirby's seems to me to be a nice sum. Not large enough for Disney/Marvel to sweet it but big enough to be seen as a moral victory and more significantly, big enough to give the Kirby estate financial security now and - if they play their cards right - in the future.

I agree!

Deejayway wrote (Post #65):

You're right of course but there's still no denying that Kirby made a significant contribution to what turned out to be a valuable property. Yes Thomas & Adams and Claremont & Byrne produced considerably better work on the X-Men than Stan & Jack but the fact is that if they hadn't created the original premise, there never would've been an X-Men.

Probably legally the Kirby's don't have a leg to stand on but that's not the point AFAIC. It's a matter of decency. And people can cite as many examples as they like of the working Joe getting shafted, that doesn't diminish one iota the injustice done to Kirby and his heirs.
It's almost as if people who have been subjected to similar injustice to Kirby, begrudge him getting a fair shake.
If injustice is endemic, do we all just throw up our hands in the air and say "well it happens to everyone so we just have to accept it"?
No. If we did, there would never be any progress.

I agree!

Well stated, Deej! 


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