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Mar 20 10 5:51 AM
ReviveTheRedRaven wrote: So basically if a corporation takes advantage of a situation by having someone over a barrel, it's fair to exploit them and there should never be any chance of redress? First, the corporation the Kirby's are suing had nothing to do with Marvel Comics in the sixties. And, yes, it is fair to exploit people who don't know their own worth. That's the American way. Well, its also the Chinese way, the Vietnamese way, etc. If Kirby is gullible enough to think Martin Goodman is going to honor something NOT on paper, then he shouldn't have been surprised at the result. Maybe Kirby, when a publisher himself, should have supported an artists' union? ME: Great company to keep and fine examples to cite in support of the morality of your argument.I'm not arguing whether or not Kirby had the courage of his convictions (he obviously left the real fighting to others) but that's irrelevant. He deserved more than he got, whether he was willing to fight for it or not. If a local gang is extorting kick-backs, should the level of justice meted out upon them be contingent on how much resistance the victim offered? That's like defending slavery because it was legal at the time. Slavery was legal (and considered moral, see "gods" words for that) for most of mankind's history. Even Sparticus did not oppose slavery, no matter what Hollywood might have said in the movie. The alternatives when you captured people in war was to either enslave them, or kill them. The former is more civilized per 1000 BC thinking. Usually they compromised and did both. Killed the men and enslaved the women...The slaves imported into the Western Hemisphere (after the American Indians proved to be too sickly to serve as labor) were ALREADY slaves sold by their (black) masters to Arabs, Europeans, and Indians in exchange for goods. There was no serious questioning of slavery until late in the 18th Century. Slavery still exists in parts of Africa, and if you consider the way women are treated in most societies, in nearly all the other continents as well.ME: Besides the historical inaccuracies, that is considered an argument in favour of slavery? I think you're working too hard on your idiosyncratic, irascible image.We cannot impose our morality on those who came before us and thus condemn them. We can merely attempt to act in a more enlightened way now.ME: And were you thinking of making an attempt any time soon?There's no evidence so far at least.
So basically if a corporation takes advantage of a situation by having someone over a barrel, it's fair to exploit them and there should never be any chance of redress?
That's like defending slavery because it was legal at the time.
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