I started with these live in the issue when they fought Lucifer and faced off with the Avengers and I really liked them. By later standards everyone but Cyclops and maybe Iceman are lame under powered characters but they were teens and seemed more interesting than Cap, DD, Subby, or Shellhead, to say nothing of tiny little Antman. There were some rather forgettable stories but also some gems. I recall how surprised I was when suddenly Scot had a brother with powers. I never read the New and Improved until getting the ReMasterworks and they really don't do anything for me.