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Oct 22 09 1:37 PM
Sackman11 wrote: When Louise took over X-Factor, her efforts made the book readable; it returned the heroes to more "heroic" characterizations. You have to remember that X-Factor was a Jim Shooter-contrived sales ploy to further capitalize on mutant popularity. Bob Layton's original storyline had heroic Scott Summers abandoing his wife and baby to hook back up with his resurrected girlfriend with no remorse, soul-searching or real explanation. It was fairly awful. In my opinion, it took Louise's writing to help the characters to regain some of the humanity and voice (originally given to them by Claremont's writing in Uncanny) which made them so popular to begin with. .
I'll agree to disagree here. Louise Simonson's excuse for Scott's behavior, as given in Inferno, was so laughable that it actually made things worse in my eyes. Scott was not really responsible for his actions since his mind had been tampered with in his youth? Gimme a break. Only in a comic book can a wife-deserter come up with an excuse like that with a straight face. Not only that, we - the readers - were expected to accept that excuse with a straight face. To top it all off, they made Madelyne one of the main villains in Inferno, so I guess it was kind of ok to desert her anyway...NOT!
I personally much prefer Morrison's interpretation of Scott Summers which gives him a darker side. Not every hero needs to be a 100% virtuous scoutboy like the traditional Superman characterization used to be. Real people aren't!
Sackman11 wrote: Something else to recall is that without Louise's creation of the Apocalypse character, X-Factor's big antagonist was supposed to be the Owl (snore), and there would be no Archangel character or story.
I wasn't aware that Louise Simonson had created Apocalypse since he debuted before she took over. Be that as it may, the Death/Archangel character and related Apocalypse story (which was the first to give Apocalypse a personality beyond the run-of-the-mill criminal mastermind that he was in his first appearance) are definitely very well done. That's one story by L. Simonson I can (and do) appreciate.
daveok77 wrote: I always found it odd that they didn't "morph" Maddie Pryor into a new Marvel Girl or use Rachel Summers or something, rather than bringing Jean Grey back from the dead, although the they did it did not completely destroy the Dark Phoenix storyline. Jean never was Phoenix, so the being/character that we all loved from UXM 101 - 137 was simply someone else who still made the ultimate sacrifice to save the universe and release the bottled up phoenix force. Besides, what more appropriate character is there to be constantly reborn?
For one thing, your analogy is a bit off. That's not exactly how the mythological Phoenix is supposed to "work". But anyway, I'm not willing to go into this again, I've ranted about this long enough before and pretty much said everything I had to say: http://marvelmasterworksfansite.yuku.com/topic/5340?page=1
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