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Re: The Marvel Method According To Jack Kirby (reply)
Didn't Goodman have other relatives on the payroll as well. Abe Goodman, etc.?
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Allen Smith

08/27/15 2:42 AM
Re: The Marvel Method According To Jack Kirby (reply)
In addition, your comment that Lee was happy is based on....what? Prior to the creation of the FF, he stated that he was unhappy and going to do something else but was persuaded by his wife to hang on for a while longer. Sloppy,...
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Allen Smith

08/27/15 1:34 AM
Re: The Marvel Method According To Jack Kirby (reply)
davecg wrote:That is the most idiotic excuse. Everybody stays in a company if you are treated good and you are successful. Stan Lee was the freaking editor, the boss. He had security and a steady good paid job, plus status. If it is true...
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Allen Smith

08/27/15 1:26 AM
Re: "The Marvel Method" PART TWO (reply)
Sorry about the loser fans, davecq, but you really shouldn't refer to yourself that way.
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Allen Smith

08/26/15 10:17 PM
Re: The Marvel Method According To Jack Kirby (reply)
I'm sorry I interrupted the flow of the pro Stan Lee propaganda in this thread.
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Allen Smith

08/26/15 9:52 PM
Re: The Marvel Method According To Jack Kirby (reply)
Dear Drew, I think I get to decide what the point of my own comments is, don't I? What arrogance. Talk about what you want to talk about, and I'll talk about what I want to talk about.
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Allen Smith

08/26/15 9:51 PM
Re: The Marvel Method According To Jack Kirby (reply)
Wally Wood on Stan Lee: "Stan was the scripter, but I was coming up with most of the ideas. It finally got to the point where I told him that if he was the writer, he’d have to come up with the plots. So, we just sat across the desk from...
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Allen Smith

08/26/15 9:39 PM
Re: The Marvel Method According To Jack Kirby (reply)
Bernie Krigstein: "I was delighted to learn that Lee has attained the status of an authority in the comics field. Twenty years of unrelenting editorial effort to suppress the artistic effort, encourage miserable taste, flood the field...
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Allen Smith

08/26/15 9:36 PM
Re: The Marvel Method According To Jack Kirby (reply)
supersteel wrote:Life could have been more fair to Jack-if he hadn't quit or been fired from so many companies. Considering Kirby didn't even create Captain America, but supported Martin Good man when Simon tried to get...
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Allen Smith

08/26/15 9:08 PM
Re: The Marvel Method According To Jack Kirby (reply)
True, life isn't fair. Except for 'ol Stan, life has been more than fair, it seems. Fame and fortune.
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Allen Smith

08/26/15 7:57 PM
Re: "The Marvel Method" PART TWO (reply)
An interesting post, gurkle. One worth thinking about. Well stated.
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Allen Smith

08/25/15 7:55 PM
Re: The Marvel Method According To Jack Kirby (reply)
And, as far as that goes, EC was featuring its artists on artist profile pages earlier than that, although not crediting them in a credit box. Their signatures on the art served that purpose.
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Allen Smith

08/25/15 2:54 PM
Re: The Marvel Method According To Jack Kirby (reply)
davecg wrote:The irony is that before Lee artists were treated by editors as non existent beings, they didn't even get credit boxes but the arguing on this can go on and on and on...Not entirely true, davecg.  ACG was crediting its...
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Allen Smith

08/25/15 2:52 PM
Re: The Marvel Method According To Jack Kirby (reply)
Irrelevant as to whether Lee mentioned the artists or not, as it was the credit box that determined who got credited for what, and paid. So, Lee's glad handing, while nice, was a deception as it didn't show what really was going on...
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Allen Smith

08/25/15 2:51 PM
Re: The Marvel Method According To Jack Kirby (reply)
Romita has stated that he plotted many of the Spider-Man stories post Ditko, I don't think Lee credited Romita for doing so except on the rare occasion. Lee enjoyed titles, though, as that meant one more thing he could get paid for...
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Allen Smith

08/25/15 2:18 PM
Re: "The Marvel Method" PART TWO (reply)
AussieStu wrote:Joseph William Marek wrote: Aside from the usual insightfulness by Stu, no one ever tries to refute this. Where in the careers of Lee, Kirby or Ditko did they create characters, concepts or titles that were as popular,...
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Allen Smith

08/25/15 1:56 PM
Re: The Marvel Method According To Jack Kirby (reply)
Joseph William Marek wrote:"that Lee low-balls other's contributions or hogs the spotlight"Again I want to refer readers to the acutal lettercols and Bulletins pages from the 1960s. You will see Stan constantly complementing his artists...
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Allen Smith

08/25/15 1:52 PM
Re: The Marvel Method According To Jack Kirby (reply)
karl51 wrote:Allen Smith wrote:karl51 wrote:Considering how obsessed Kirby was with getting credit for his creations and co-creations over the last 20+ years of his life, I always thought it was ironic and sad how little credit he gave...
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Allen Smith

08/25/15 1:17 PM
Re: "The Marvel Method" PART TWO (reply)
droid714 wrote: Why waste out time with links? Why not just summarize for us?The Marvel Method according to Kirby = Kirby did everything; Stan did nothing.And yet, droid714, poor undercredited Stan Lee made millions.  Anybody got a...
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Allen Smith

08/21/15 8:25 PM
Re: The Marvel Method According To Jack Kirby (reply)
karl51 wrote:Considering how obsessed Kirby was with getting credit for his creations and co-creations over the last 20+ years of his life, I always thought it was ironic and sad how little credit he gave to others. I have over a dozen...
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Allen Smith

08/21/15 8:21 PM