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Re: Art or Story? (reply)
nakamachi wrote:Sentry 459 wrote:nakamachi wrote:I think part of the problem is that new talent is coming in without having formal education or learning anything from mentors who were there before. Shooter has made comments about new...
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Allen Smith

01/23/15 4:12 PM
Re: Spider-man: The Case For Kirby (reply)
droid714 wrote: Allen Smith wrote:Thanks, Droid, for your irrefutable logic in saying that Kirby clung like a barnicle to Marvel, where he did, it's true, work for a number of years, but not commenting on Stan's staying at Marvel for...
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Allen Smith

01/13/15 3:27 PM
Re: Art or Story? (reply)
Five Years Later wrote:Actually I didn't really state it right. I don't have a problem with Ross specifically -- a better way to put it is I'm not impressed or that interested in art that looks like a photograph. I know some people value...
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Allen Smith

01/13/15 1:17 AM
Re: Spider-man: The Case For Kirby (reply)
Thanks, Droid, for your irrefutable logic in saying that Kirby clung like a barnicle to Marvel, where he did, it's true, work for a number of years, but not commenting on Stan's staying at Marvel for what, in excess of fifty years. Glad...
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Allen Smith

01/11/15 10:06 PM
Re: Art or Story? (reply)
I buy comics primarily for the art, although obviously story is important. But, as I can, and do read plenty of prose, I want something more than just what prose can offer. So, comics is a natural, as it offers great art and...
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Allen Smith

01/11/15 10:00 PM
Re: Spider-man: The Case For Kirby (reply)
droid714 wrote:Allen Smith wrote:Nice try again, droid.  The irony is that for the twenty years or so before the arrival of Ditko and Kirby, Stan Lee was known for: absolutely nothing.  Once those two gentlemen arrived back at Marvel, lo...
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Allen Smith

01/11/15 2:46 PM
Re: Spider-man: The Case For Kirby (reply)
droid714 wrote:The great irony is that without Stan Lee, nobody would even know who Jack Kirby was.Nice try again, droid.  The irony is that for the twenty years or so before the arrival of Ditko and Kirby, Stan Lee was known for:...
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Allen Smith

01/10/15 7:11 PM
Re: Spider-man: The Case For Kirby (reply)
Hmm. Curious that you focus on being disappointed with Kirby post Marvel, but don't have a comment to make about the level of Lee's contributions to comics once he went to Hollywood. Sounds like much was expected of Kirby, as he had the...
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Allen Smith

01/10/15 12:23 AM
Re: Spider-man: The Case For Kirby (reply)
davecg wrote:The point remains, when Kirby left it wasn't a big shock, there were better artists in other books. The company survived, and Stan's duties were more important to the day to day proccess of the company. When Kirby left,...
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Allen Smith

01/09/15 9:19 PM
Re: 1968 The year Marvel sold out (reply)
AussieStu wrote:... back again, "With less on each page, more stories had to stretch out. Fans noticed and they complained. Stan defended himself on the splash page of FF61, and later promised to stop all multi part stories. But multi...
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Allen Smith

01/09/15 6:45 PM
Re: Spider-man: The Case For Kirby (reply)
davecg wrote:When Kirby left Stan was more essential to Marvel that is the truth. Kirby just amounted to FF and Thor, books which popularity was surpassed years ago by Spider-Man or Avengers. Lee was in charge of production,...
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Allen Smith

01/09/15 6:30 PM
Re: Spider-man: The Case For Kirby (reply)
And I think that contention is reversed. Stan Lee, without Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko, would be the subject of nostalgic discussions about what a great writer he was on things like Millie the Model and Patsy Walker. And even in those...
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Allen Smith

01/09/15 4:00 AM
Re: Spider-man: The Case For Kirby (reply)
Actually, the American comics group was giving artist credits on a pretty steady basis by 1959, and of course we all know about EC. Nice try, though.
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Allen Smith

01/09/15 3:55 AM
Re: Spider-man: The Case For Kirby (reply)
Yes, Stan Lee knew to steal from Voltaire when he came up with that "with great power comes great responsibility" line.
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Allen Smith

01/09/15 2:28 AM
Re: Spider-man: The Case For Kirby (reply)
Yes, an act of thievery on Stan's part. That's what comes of having the power to hire and fire as well as being the one in charge of allocating credit on the pages of the comics.
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Allen Smith

01/09/15 1:36 AM
Re: Spider-man: The Case For Kirby (reply)
Another link to a blog entry on Eric Stanton's contribution to Spider-Man. Looks like everybody and his brother created Spider-Man. http://vintagesleaze.blogspot.com/2012/01/spiderman-eric-stanton-steve-ditko.html#.VK8lTck3v4R
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Allen Smith

01/09/15 12:53 AM
Re: Spider-man: The Case For Kirby (reply)
Granted that Marvel had a small staff, and that Stan was rushed, I'm still puzzled by the fact that plotting credits for the artists weren't given in the credit boxes where the artists did plot the stories. Given that Stan Lee wasn't...
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Allen Smith

01/09/15 12:37 AM
Re: Spider-man: The Case For Kirby (reply)
Here's a link I found posted on facebook concerning the possible creation of Spider-Man's costume. Very detailed, and it has a one sentence letter from Ditko about the matter, which of course settled nothing. But here...
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Allen Smith

01/09/15 12:29 AM
Re: Spider-man: The Case For Kirby (reply)
droid714 wrote:Five Years Later wrote:No throwing in a Silver Surfer for free! Not sure what you want to call it but in my mind it's akin to actually taking all your vacation time. I'm not sure how that will translate for the...
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Allen Smith

01/08/15 11:52 PM
Re: Spider-man: The Case For Kirby (reply)
droid714 wrote:Allen Smith wrote:And, to the best of my knowledge, Kirby never listed his name first in the credit boxes and let the artist do most of the writing while claiming credit for the whole writing job.  'Nuff said, effendi? ...
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Allen Smith

01/08/15 11:49 PM