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Mar 16 17 6:23 PM
richard63 wrote:I'm curious as how folks would rank different periods of Claremont's run.
Mar 16 17 6:59 PM
SamyMerchi wrote:I've never really had a problem with the Logan/Rachel story. The man was practically keeling over so I have no problem buying that his judgment was impaired at the time. Furthermore, and this is just personal supposition without any evidence, I think Rachel may have partially mind-controlled or telepathically nudged him to stop her, thus thematically hailing back to the Phoenix/Dark Phoenix mental dichotomy back in #135-137 -- one side wants to kill and destroy, the other side is willing to commit suicide to stop herself. Who's to say that the rational side of Rachel wasn't at least influencing Logan to be her executioner? How much regret does Logan have over #136 that Rachel's subconscious could have tapped? I think #207 is a huge callback to this moment:
Rachel/Selene had been a feud that had been brewing since Rachel first appeared in the past (Selene murdered the first person Rachel met in the present day/had been kind to her). And Selene, in the encounters that followed, made it clear to Rachel she intended to eat Rachel or make her Selene's slave or worse.
Also of note; the X-Men and Hellfire Club had been pretty much at each other's throats for ages and the only thing keeping the Hellfire Club from going nuclear on the X-Men was the fact that the X-Men kept backing down every time they had the Hellfire Club beat. Killing Selene would have meant Emma and Sebastian would go full tilt "destroy the X-Men" and given what happened the last time the Hellfire Club went nuclear on the X-Men (Dark Phoenix Saga), the X-Men and Wolverine in general, didn't want to start a war that would get very bloody very fast.
Mar 16 17 7:08 PM
madave wrote:I'd forgotten about the Jaspers issue, I'd read that before on Comic Book Legends Revealed; (http://www.cbr.com/comic-book-legends-revealed-300-part-3/).
I wish we would have had the chance to see the original story, and would have provided a better narrative for the Mutant Massacre. So who gets the blame? Claremont for pinning so much on a character that he had not used before? Moore for falling out with Marvel? Or Marvel for reprinting the work of UK creators in the US without notifying them or even offering any remuneration?
Moore. Moore basically was a bitter little crybaby and more so, was more than willing to destroy the career and ability to make money off of his work, of Alan Davis (his so-called friend) to get his way.
The stuff Moore did to Alan Davis alone make me glad Moore got royally screwed over by DC over the Watchmen.
Mar 16 17 7:18 PM
intp wrote: far less unsatisfying
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fubarthepanda wrote:richard63 wrote:I'm curious as how folks would rank different periods of Claremont's run. 1. Claremont/Byrne 2. Claremont/JRJr3. Claremont/Cockrum4. Claremont/Smith5. Claremont/Silvestri6. Claremont/LeeBut there's not much divide between #3 thru #6 to me.
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