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Posts: 1345 (06/17/09 8:02 AM) Registered Member |
Lee Semmens wrote: While that is a serious possibility given the horrible condition of Sup KNM, keep in mind Marvel now uses Diamond for both Bookstores and Direct Market and DC doesn't the actual numbers might be a bit higher. |
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Posts: 2965 (06/17/09 8:08 AM) Registered Member |
Any information used for ICv2's estimates reflects Marvel's sales in the Direct Market only -- sales to booksellers are often made on a returnable basis, so any data on pre-orders would have limited practical value.
In The Back Of Beyond -- The World Seen Through The Camera Of My iPhone.
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Posts: 2120 (06/17/09 9:03 AM) |
Fin Fang Foom wrote:True but the DCCL is unique in that supposedly all its sales-- including to mass-market booksellers-- are non-returnable. If anything, then, the numbers from icv2 and the Bookseller's should reflect true numbers. |
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Posts: 2966 (06/17/09 12:59 PM) Registered Member |
The point I was making is that any estimates of Marvel's sales based on Diamond's data do not include mass market booksellers, even though
Diamond is distributing Marvel's books to that venue. Nobody should assume, say, that Marvel's sales are disproportionately higher because they also
include sales to a venue outside of the Direct Market. (Because they don't.)
That was the stated intention up front, but I was surprised to discover when I checked Ingram's listing that some were, and some weren't. So who knows what the reasoning is these days.
In The Back Of Beyond -- The World Seen Through The Camera Of My iPhone.
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Posts: 1284 (06/18/09 5:10 PM) Registered Member |
Picked up The Swamp Thing book today and love it. The art is reproduced nicely and I love the Redondo issues! The gutter isn't is big deal.
Very nice book 
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Posts: 160 (06/18/09 8:52 PM) |
"The gutter isn't is big deal.
Very nice book "
Indeed, the gutter/border "issue" was overblown. I find it much better to see for myself at this point. |
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Posts: 46 (06/18/09 9:28 PM) |
I'm almost done with Swamp Thing and I'm loving it. I'm really glad this was done in this format and not in a Showcase. The gutter isn't a
problem for me, and the tight glued binding isn't nearly as bad as Marvel's Premiere Classics.
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Posts: 1290 (07/03/09 4:20 PM) Registered Member |
For those who may have missed this in the Showcase Creeper thread, there's a credible Amazon leak located over here that could very
well be the first Classic volume served up by DC next year. It's not labelled as a classic, but has the price point of one, and exactly matches the page
count of a Creeper classic I proposed on this thread a while back:
Steve Ditko's Creeper (1968-79) Story by Denny O'Neil, art by Steve Ditko & Gil Kane Showcase 73 Beware the Creeper 1-6 First Issue Special 7 World's Finest Comics 249-255 Content: 246 pages Projected page count: 256 pages |
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Posts: 4415 (07/03/09 4:34 PM) |
It's a good choice if it is the first one. I just hope it is well done.
And it gives me hope that we might see some Aparo Aquaman if they are willing to do Creeper, even though one of the main reasons is classic Ditko, I'm sure. |
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Posts: 1662 (07/03/09 5:38 PM) Golden Age |
I hope that Creeper HC is for real. I was disappointed that Creeper was the latest cancelled Showcase Presents, but I'd rather have this material in
hardcover.
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Posts: 3304 (07/03/09 5:58 PM) |
I haven't bought any of the classic Library books yet so this looks like the first one I'll be picking up.
Would have preferred to see this as an 'omnibus' collection similar to the Jack Kirby books, or better still as an Archive. But at least we're getting a HC collection in color. |
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Posts: 2133 (07/03/09 7:13 PM) Registered Member |
I may even break my ban on DC's poor man archives to get The Creeper in color.
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Posts: 1544 (07/03/09 8:16 PM) Registered Member |
They seem to have Doc savage TPB as well
Doc Savage: The Silver Pyramid (Paperback) by Dennis O'Neil (Author), Adam Kubert (Illustrator), Andy Kubert (Illustrator) List Price: $19.99 Paperback: 128 pages http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1401226213?ie=UTF8&tag=thisispop-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=1401226213] |
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Posts: 3782 (07/03/09 11:17 PM) |
Creeper in color would be -so- so good
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Posts: 713 (07/04/09 11:41 AM) Bronze Age |
It's nice that they might well be doing the Creeper as a color book. I would admit that I'd prefer it if they threw in the the Brave and the Bold ish
by Adams and the JLA Guest-star issue, both from around the time of Creepie's original comic. The World's Finest stuff is really uninteresting material
and should be saved for a long-delayed second volume of other Creep-stuff that I would gleefully not buy.
The Doc Savage book is mostly appealing to me because it might mean that we could someday see a reprint of DC's The Shadow, by Gerard Jones & (mostly) Eduardo Barreto. In my little dream-world, this would lead to a reuniting of this team and a continuation of the best-produced Shadow comic ever!! I don't usually get upset at Mike Kaluta, but I was not pleased when Dark Horse paid more for the rights to the Shadow so that DC's title got cancelled and M.K. could write a far inferior book (regardless of how nice the covers and art were). So much for one of the few monthlies I looked forward to buying in the early 90's. |
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Posts: 4426 (07/04/09 12:05 PM) |
Are the Batman stories featuring Creeper from Detective Comics (#418, #447) unimportant to this collection? They fall within the time period, I believe.
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Posts: 3118 (07/04/09 12:55 PM) Golden Age |
Creeper also appeared in DETECTIVE #445 and 448, which were parts of the "Bat-Murderer" storyline of #444-448.
The criteria Osgood is using above are the stories which Ditko was involved. |
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Posts: 1583 (07/04/09 2:32 PM) |
That's great news if it's correct.
IMHO the Creeper was Ditko's best work at DC and almost on a par with his best work at Charlton. Read between the lines or you'll fall through the cracks...
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Posts: 1294 (07/05/09 11:00 AM) Registered Member |
Silveragemarvelman wrote:I have both of those issues, and after a quick check I would say no. #418 is a stand-alone story, and as dru mentioned the other is part of the Bat-Murderer serial (which also deserves reprinting in a 70s Batman collection to be sure!). Creeper had several other appearances in the 70s - a couple of B&Bs, a Super-Team Family with Wildcat, one in the short-lived Joker title - but I figured that they would spotlight the Ditko work for a hardcover, and save the more comprehensive treatment for a showcase. |
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Posts: 4436 (07/05/09 12:54 PM) |
That makes sense, but isn't there a Gil Kane issue in that original run of Creeper? I think there is. Or did he just do a cover...can't remember for
now.
Anyway, thanks for the info. |
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