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Journey into Mystery # 83 with modern colouring - why? |
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Did anyone notice that the solicit for the Thor Annual # 1 in the new previews includes "a reprint of Journey into Mystery # 83 remastered with
modern colouring". Why modern colouring? Is it going to be collected with the Tales of Asgard reprints in a Tales of Asgard Omnibus or are we
going to see more and more of these 60's classics re-coloured? Personally I love the new colouring of Tales of Asgard and would welcome more of the same.
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Gormuu |
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This has been a very popular thing lately for Marvel: witness the softcover MMs with recolored covers by Dean White (have been a big hit) and now the Tales of
Asgard series, Secret Invasion: Requiem (which reprinted an old Ant-Man and Avengers story newly recolored) and a forthcoming Green Goblin special which will
reprint ASM #39-40.
I like it and I think it's a way Marvel can see to enhance the attention that these reprints get.
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Chris of The Old School People |
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As long as they give us purists the choice to collect accurately reprinted versions, I'm OK. I find the Essential covers, for example, to be
interesting......and some are well done. But When it gets down to collecting full color hardback reprints, I prefer original colors....both on covers and on
the inside.
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OcCaM |
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Whereas I'm all for technological changes. I wouldn't go back to using vcr's over blue rays, nor Magnavox Oddyssey videogames over Xbox 360's!
I'm not against nostalgia but it's painful to look at an old collection (say the latest Avengers Masterworks I'm currently reading) versus some modern tpb with a full colour palette. Not all of the old classics hold up poorly, some of the old colourists were masters at their craft even with a limited palette. But, most just look fugly and garish to me these days. Esp. when I see night sees done in garish yellows and greens. Ugh! It'll be interesting to see what the sales on the forthcoming Tales of Asgard mini-series collection will be. |
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I will be getting the collected Tales of Asgard - NOT for the modern coloring BUT rather because I have longed for a collected volume of those stories and if
that's the only way I'll get it, then so be it! What would be interesting is if it was offered BOTH ways - THOSE would be some sales figures to
examine. This is not to say I am against the modern coloring, I liked the Astonish reprint and what I have seen thus far from the Asgard books, I am just
waiting to get them in a single HB volume.
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Fin Fang Foom |
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Well, that, and fill a few more pages with minimal costs...
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clessidraman |
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Gormuu wrote: I am glad to hear Marvel is getting a good feed back on these classics with a modern twist, in the end it another way for Marvel to generate more cash from their Masterworks restorations efforts. And like Chris says as long as we purist keep on getting our classic colors reprints I see the above as a big plus for both Marvel and us, and who knows adding classics stories to new comics might help increase a bit Masterworks sales might that be for HC or soft covers volumes. |
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KirbyFan4ever wrote: Verily. |
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Marshall Crist |
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While they're at it, maybe they could reprint the last ten years with old-fashioned coloring.
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Gormuu wrote:They also did the "Origin of Danny Rand" special with recolored Marvel Premiere 15 & 16, and a Nova special with recolored Nova #1 (Vol. 1). I've been enjoying these quite a bit and hope Marvel will continue with more specials...it's a good way to let new readers in on characters' origins, especially characters like Nova and Iron Fist that don't have Masterworks or even Class TPB lines. |
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Chris of The Old School People |
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Marshall Crist wrote:
Yeah, but it would look the backside of animation cel. If they take those garish colors, I'm not sure you'd find any trace of a drawing underneath!! |
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famac |
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While I don't object to a fresh coloring, I do object to color artists that change the appearance of the art dramatically -- and usually for the worse. I
don't think the old masters lend themselves well to a lot of rendering in the coloring. I'm okay with gradient fills and non-traditional colors - but
when the colorists starts to add facial contours and all of that sort of rendering - its adding more art - not coloring. Just because a line isn't black
doesn't mean its not a line. So when these guys go in and give Kirby characters blushed apple cheeks, thanks but no thanks. The old artists drew for flat
colors - they knew what the finished product would look like - so when guys go in now and add nuance, its often redundant and gilding the lily.
Who says anyone likes modern coloring anyway? As far as I can tell, sales of comics have steadily fallen in lock step with "advances" in coloring techniques. I know, I know - TV, video games and the Internet all have diverted kids away from comics - but anyone who knows anything about statistics would look seriously at two things that go together so strongly. I think it entirely possible that the new coloring has chased off parents familiar with old comics who might have introduced their children to comics had they not been shocked by what they found inside a modern comic. I'm not saying I have all the answers, but it seems curious that content and coloring have all gone a certain direction - and readers have gone the other. Maybe recoloring JIM #83 will get existing fans to buy a Masterwork, but the package its in could very well be chasing away many prospective readers. Until Marvel and DC run focus groups on this issue, their editors will largely be making comics they like, instead of comics that will attract a broader audience. If you go and look at the shelf these day, the product seems more and more targeted to the 18-35 crowd - even books targeted at cartoon watching audiences (at leas Marvel's Adventures titles) don't seem a whole lot different that the regular offerings.
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I think it entirely possible that the new coloring has chased off parents familiar with old comics who might have introduced their children to comics had they not been shocked by what they found inside a modern comic. Sounds pretty far fetched to me. The big drop in sales in the 1990's coincided with the collapse in the speculator market and the fact that several thousand comic shops went out of business due to cash flow problems, largely as a result of Image not delivering product that they had been payed for upfront.
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famac |
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I brought a copy of Spider-man to my sisters how a few years back, and she opened it up and said 'what the heck is this? I can't even tell what's
going on." She might have bought comics for her kids, but when she saw that - she lost interest. Why do you think the Sunday papers are largely colored in
a more conventional way?
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